So you are citing a Fox News article, so that’s -1 off the bat.
The article itself did not properly tie the celebrities to the lynching.
The article talks about how Israelis consider the pin to be associated with an event in 2002. That involved 2 victims. Which is not only a stretch, but even if it were true, still does not mean the celebrities would be in on its secret meaning.
Honestly, i feel no matter the symbol that was chosen i am sure that there would be some connection made to discredit their actual motivation, which is to pressure a cease fire. Which is objectively moral.
Also even if it was true, the assertion that wearing the pin makes one an antisemite is false because Israel is not the Jewish people. You cannot blame all Jews for the war crimes of Israel, and Israel cannot frame criticism against it as antisemitism.
Is that what i did? Here are the facts: Artists4ceasefire during the Oscar’s used their collective voice to call for a cease fire.
They wore a red pin to show solidarity to this message.
Fox News reports that there are people who believe that the pin represents a double murder in 2002 by a mob
Artists4ceasefire gives its meaning for the pin on there site, that does not connect it to the 2002 murders.
That is all. There is no connection established, and fox news insinuating there is one requires them to prove it. Which they did not do
he article talks about how Israelis consider the pin to be associated with an event in 2002. That involved 2 victims. Which is not only a stretch, but even if it were true, still does not mean the celebrities would be in on its secret meaning.
I don’t know. When i look it up i see reporting that it was made by the group Artists4ceasefire. This is a group that consists of a large amount of actors and other entertainment personalities who signed an open letter demanding Biden push for a cease fire in 2023. So they made the pin sometime after that.
Is it your implication that because it was made after the murders in 2002 that means it’s connected, because if so you have failed to justify the connection.
“The Artists4Ceasefire enamel pin is composed of a red background to symbolize the urgency of the call to save lives,” the website said. “The orange hand conveys the beautiful community of people from all backgrounds that have come together in support of centering our shared humanity. The heart being cradled in the center of the hand is an invitation for us to lead with our hearts, always, to lead with love. When we lead with love, we understand that all of our fellow beings deserve to be loved and protected.”
Again, no matter what symbol they used, someone with an agenda can interpret to mean something that it was not intended in order to further that agenda. And the only people making that claim here has an agenda. Again even if you were right and the creator secretly intended to connect the two, you have to be able to prove that the participants were in on it. Which no one even attempted to do.
Is it your implication that because it was made after the murders in 2002 that means it’s connected, because if so you have failed to justify the connection.
I don’t really have a strong opinion. I post articles that have think are worthy of conversation. They don’t always reflect my views or opinions. I don’t like echo chambers.
The symbol appears to be tied to the murder of two Israeli soldiers. It seems to represent the genocide of the Jews.
It’s like the confederate flag. It may mean something good to someone else but it’s so tied to hate, you shouldn’t display it without knowing most people won’t perceive it well.
WraithGear@lemmy.world 6 months ago
So you are citing a Fox News article, so that’s -1 off the bat.
The article itself did not properly tie the celebrities to the lynching.
The article talks about how Israelis consider the pin to be associated with an event in 2002. That involved 2 victims. Which is not only a stretch, but even if it were true, still does not mean the celebrities would be in on its secret meaning.
Honestly, i feel no matter the symbol that was chosen i am sure that there would be some connection made to discredit their actual motivation, which is to pressure a cease fire. Which is objectively moral.
Also even if it was true, the assertion that wearing the pin makes one an antisemite is false because Israel is not the Jewish people. You cannot blame all Jews for the war crimes of Israel, and Israel cannot frame criticism against it as antisemitism.
Find a better media diet.
Mickey7@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Remember if you are a leftist…“Always question the source and never examine the facts if it conflicts with the narrative”
WraithGear@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Is that what i did? Here are the facts: Artists4ceasefire during the Oscar’s used their collective voice to call for a cease fire. They wore a red pin to show solidarity to this message. Fox News reports that there are people who believe that the pin represents a double murder in 2002 by a mob Artists4ceasefire gives its meaning for the pin on there site, that does not connect it to the 2002 murders.
That is all. There is no connection established, and fox news insinuating there is one requires them to prove it. Which they did not do
wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee 6 months ago
Does the pin predate that event?
WraithGear@lemmy.world 6 months ago
I don’t know. When i look it up i see reporting that it was made by the group Artists4ceasefire. This is a group that consists of a large amount of actors and other entertainment personalities who signed an open letter demanding Biden push for a cease fire in 2023. So they made the pin sometime after that.
Is it your implication that because it was made after the murders in 2002 that means it’s connected, because if so you have failed to justify the connection.
“The Artists4Ceasefire enamel pin is composed of a red background to symbolize the urgency of the call to save lives,” the website said. “The orange hand conveys the beautiful community of people from all backgrounds that have come together in support of centering our shared humanity. The heart being cradled in the center of the hand is an invitation for us to lead with our hearts, always, to lead with love. When we lead with love, we understand that all of our fellow beings deserve to be loved and protected.”
Again, no matter what symbol they used, someone with an agenda can interpret to mean something that it was not intended in order to further that agenda. And the only people making that claim here has an agenda. Again even if you were right and the creator secretly intended to connect the two, you have to be able to prove that the participants were in on it. Which no one even attempted to do.
wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee 6 months ago
I don’t really have a strong opinion. I post articles that have think are worthy of conversation. They don’t always reflect my views or opinions. I don’t like echo chambers.
The symbol appears to be tied to the murder of two Israeli soldiers. It seems to represent the genocide of the Jews.
It’s like the confederate flag. It may mean something good to someone else but it’s so tied to hate, you shouldn’t display it without knowing most people won’t perceive it well.