What border security? The wall was never finished and the last guy had 4 years to do it
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Mickey7@lemmy.world 9 months agoLOL. We had border security BEFORE the biden regime came into power. But WAIT now we need a new law to stop it. How did that happen? Gee I don’t know. But the media told me so. Better believe it. I’m too busy getting fucked with inflation to think for myself. Though way way back in my brain I have this thought of what ignorant tools the media must think of those that believe their lies.
BobaFuttbucker@reddthat.com 9 months ago
Mickey7@lemmy.world 9 months ago
are you serious? please check out the amount of illegal aliens entering the country during Trump vs the biden regime. Please don’t continue to let them lie to you.
BobaFuttbucker@reddthat.com 9 months ago
In order to get the stats you desire, how are you quantifying undocumented people?
Is it by apprehensions and expulsions? Because you could argue there that border security is better if that number was higher. It doesn’t necessarily indicate if there are more or less immigrants, just how many were captured and returned.
So please help me help you make your argument. What stats exactly am I looking for?
Mickey7@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Look at this graph. And then ask yourself what changed from 2020 to 2021. No laws changed. But the biden regime came into power and opened the borders. Now we will be supporting these people via higher taxes for decades.
wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee 9 months ago
You think it takes 4 years to build a well across the whole border? Is that meant as a joke?
BobaFuttbucker@reddthat.com 9 months ago
That’s what was promised. Either Trump was a liar who gave us unrealistic expectations or was incapable of doing the job
groupofcrows@lemmy.ca 9 months ago
Why did Trump campaign than fail to build a wall if you had border security?
Mickey7@lemmy.world 9 months ago
The White House doesn’t write checks. Congress issues money. For the first 2 years Republicans controlled Congress and did nothing to get the wall built. When Democrats then took over Congress of course they did the same. Check out some books on how the US government works regarding the various branches and what they can and cannot do.
wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee 9 months ago
The problem is neither side has taken the border seriously. Both sides want to ignore it.
If you want to end the border problem, go after the companies that hire illegal aliens. With no jobs, they won’t come.
Personally I would like to see immigration reform but neither party wants to do that either.
If we need millions of uneducated people who don’t share our culture to work jobs, fine. Just do it illegally instead of the wink wink nudge nudge method we are doing now.
BobaFuttbucker@reddthat.com 9 months ago
The problem is neither side has taken the border seriously. Both sides want to ignore it.
Almost like it’s a manufactured issue intended to keep us infighting and distracted on other issues…
If you want to end the border problem, go after the companies that hire illegal aliens. With no jobs, they won’t come.
There’s one problem with that.
Mexico (I assume you don’t mean undocumented Canadian immigrants) isn’t even the primary source of undocumented immigrants Source
wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee 9 months ago
The chart clearly shows Mexico and South America as the largest group
BobaFuttbucker@reddthat.com 9 months ago
Historically yes, but Mexico hasn’t been in the lead since 2015.
BobaFuttbucker@reddthat.com 9 months ago
What sort of reform would you be interested in?
Rather than just be content with a workforce that’s “illegal” maybe we should just make it easier for those interested in work to cross legally with a work visa so they’re tax paying and authorized?
Like, instead of gating them out, if the issue is they’re undocumented then why not make the documentation process easier? Why not put more resources into tackling the backlog of court cases from immigrants, or improving their path to US citizenship?
The answer to why we’re not already doing these things is because it’s largely a manufactured issue to keep one side enraged with the other. If you don’t believe me ask the republican led house why they demanded a border security bill, helped create it and then voted against it.
wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee 9 months ago
What sort of reform would you be interested in?
Eliminate h1b. Create a visa for anyone who wants to work a job with a 5 year renewal. Stronger enforcement iof immigration violations. Quicker process for processing visas.
BobaFuttbucker@reddthat.com 9 months ago
Good news! The Biden Administration is improving h1b to include what you listed here!
Mickey7@lemmy.world 9 months ago
There have been times when Republicans controlled both the presidency and the congress and THEY never addressed this. So I totally agree with you. It’s an easy fix. All claims for entering the country are considered before you enter. End the joke of Asylum. If things are bad in your country too bad. Stay there and make it better. Have a real ID system in this country. You have to have a real ID proving that you are a citizen to get hired (and to vote). This would also apply to real green cards. If you hire an illegal alien there is a minimum jail term of one year for the person that hired them along with everyone listed as the owners of the company. Also a large fine, not sure what the amount should be for the company that hired the illegal alien. The problem would end instantly if this was the law and the fucking justice system actually fucking enforced it.
wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee 9 months ago
I hate the asylum claims. Many are bogus. The left claims we are a racist hateful country. As such we shouldn’t be letting people come In
Dkarma@lemmy.world 9 months ago
No we didn’t…wow drinking the trump propaganda firehouse aren’t you …lol
So you’re saying we had border security during Obama too or are you trying to pretend we had border security for only the trump years?
Mickey7@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Yes Obama was certainly not a dumb guy and DID NOT allow millions to cross the border illegally just as biden has been doing