Comment on Biden discussing the border during the SOTU
Excrubulent@slrpnk.net 1 year ago
Oh no, did pandering to republicans not make them your friends, Joe? Were you really psyched to be the tough border president? Did you actually think they gave a shit about the issues they use as cudgels in the culture wars? Maybe you should sponsor more genocides, maybe that will finally make them like you.
Who cares about actually doing the right thing, or even the popular thing? It’s all about sucking up to the worst bullies in the room, that’s the best strategy, apparently. It’s not like it matters, anybody who’s paying attention already knows who and what you are: the guy whose supporters can only endorse as marginally, strategically better than overt fascists, and the guy who most people will only vote for because they have no other realistic option.
We all remember how those border agents talk about immigrants, calling them “floaters” and sharing photos of their corpses on facebook. They didn’t go anywhere just because the president stopped going on TV calling Mexicans rapists.
mozz@mbin.grits.dev 1 year ago
Biden seems to be doing more to reign in Israel's 75-year project than any US president since the 1980s. I agree, it's nowhere near enough, and he should stop sending them aid, because that's accessory to mass murder. But I'm also pretty sure the war in Gaza was not his plan for what should happen in the middle east.
This is so far off base I'm having trouble coming up with something.
Let's pick out just one issue: Gaza. Biden is giving aid, giving audiences to Netanyahu's political opponent, talking about "cease-fire," is slowly turning away from the US's default position of "yeah kill 'em all it's all good," all while sending weapons for some fuckin' reason. That's not ideal, no. Meanwhile Trump moved the embassy to Jerusalem and said of the recent war Israel has to "finish the problem." So you're fine with the guy who wants to finish the problem being in charge, because there's not much difference?
Excrubulent@slrpnk.net 1 year ago
So let me get this straight… Biden is slowly moving away from his sponsoring of gneocide, which you have acknowledged he is doing, and your only real defense of him is that he is marginally, strategically better than the other guy?
It sounds like you agree with what I’m saying because you just restated it, except with the addition that you somehow psychically determined that I am fine with Trump, even though I explicitly said he was an overt fascist and even worse.
Did you think that was an argument? Or did you just read my comment and think, “Hey, that’s describing me! It’s my time to shine!”
mozz@mbin.grits.dev 1 year ago
Did you read someone else's comment and mistakenly think it was mine? No. Biden is orders of magnitude better than Trump. If I didn't make that clear enough in what I said, then a quick recap:
No, he's not marginally better. I actually am irritated that the magnitude of absolutely bonkers attacks on Biden is making me come to his defense, because I don't really like the establishment Democrats all that much, but in case it wasn't clear, no the difference is fucking anything but marginal.
Excrubulent@slrpnk.net 1 year ago
If you don’t like defending them, then fucking don’t. It doesn’t take much to admit that you should probably vote for them, and that’s all you really need to do with them. They’re not your friends, stop acting like anything they do is good. He is literally boasting about his tough border policy, which by the way has some absolutely horrific ongoing consequences to this day at the border. The gross mistreatment of legal asylum seekers goes on to this day, you just don’t hear about it because the republicans don’t give a shit and the dems know it would look bad to yell about it when it’s their guy in office.
Everything you named has a nice-sounding marketable title, but on closer inspection to just about anything they do I’ve found it’s always bare-minimum perfomative change at the absolute best. It is pure spin.
I do not understand why you would agree that they suck but not want anybody to criticise them. Biden could end military support for Israel tomorrow and basically cinch the election. He won’t do it, and maybe that means Trump will win. I don’t know why you wouldn’t want people to talk about that.