Comment on Suggestion: asking for the community's thoughts before defederating with an instance

dezmd@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

• Jilanico@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  This isn’t about hexbear in particular. It’s about how these decisions are made. But for the record, if hexbear users actually started trolling en masse, I’d be in favor of defederation.

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  • Zaktor@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    They didn’t spring up from nothing, it’s a r/CTH (sub responsible for a lot of trolling and brigading) successor instance. We don’t have to pretend to not know who they were on Reddit, especially when statements from their admin still support “war on liberalism in the Fediverse” and won’t punish users banned from other instances “for being an asshat”. It walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, and literally came from a duck. We can put two and two together.

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    • Jilanico@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Fair, but that wasn’t the only reason given for defederating. As I said, I’m not going to lose sleep over hexbear defederation in particular, but the way these decisions are made troubles me.

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      • Zaktor@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Yeah, I think the statement was kind of awkward and muddled what at its core was an anti-trolling stance with ideological examples. They’re trolling for those reasons and you can expect them keep doing it because they (theoretically) care deeply about waging that “war”, but the problem is the trolling, not their motivations.

        I started out in lukewarm support, but the comments on the defederation posts pushed me into wholehearted support. I’d mostly forgotten how exhausting their brand of trolling and disingenuous argumentation was, and now can’t imagine voluntarily returning to a social space awash in that. I certainly wouldn’t open a sub somewhere they could (conveniently) access, so while it may cut off potential users for your streetwear sub, I expect there are a lot of other mods breathing a sigh of relief to not have their volunteer labor made noticeably more time consuming because we have to give trolls a chance to be trolly enough to warrant the drama of a breakup. Much easier to just never integrate in the first place.

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