Comment on Vegan dies from starvation

• chetradley@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  You’re assuming correlation implies causation. There’s also a direct correlation between life expectancy and per capita wealth, which you’re conveniently ignoring. Correcting for external factors, there’s been an association between vegetarian/vegan diets and lower prevalence of disease and obesity.

  Adventist study findings show inverse correlation between meat consumption and certain health risk factors.

  Blue zones with the highest life expectancy all share very low meat consumption (less than 5 servings per month)..

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  • masterofballs@exploding-heads.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    there’s been an association between vegetarian/vegan diets and lower prevalence of disease and obesity.

    I think you are implying association means causation. There’s also a direct correlation between life expectancy and per capita wealth, which you’re conveniently ignoring. Most of the data you pull that kinda garbage from comes from highly biased seventh day Adventist studies.

    The point is there has never been a observational study that has shown eating meat decreases life expectancy. And looking at per meat consumption at a society level we see high meat consumption correlate with longer life not shorter life. Which indicates to me vegetarian diets are shit. I do believe I recently read about a Harvard study which showed low carb mostly meat diets reduce diabetes markers at-least. If you are interested I can get you the link.

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    • chetradley@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I’m more interested in the supposed study correlating high meat consumption with longer life. Do you have one to support that claim, as I’ve provided two that seem counter to it?

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      • masterofballs@exploding-heads.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        1. You have not provided any observational controlled studies at all.
        2. But fine www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8881926/ There is one. But you don’t actually need some phd to sign off on it you can look at meat consumption country to country and see for yourself.

        And of course meat consumption increases life expectancy. It is both a more evolutionary consistent diet and contains the most amount of nutrition per calorie.

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        If you take almost any animal on earth and radically change it’s diet it will develop health problems.

        It’s only through weird online vegan subculture that you have managed to be so brain washed. After you’ve been on that shitty diet for 10 years and your teeth start falling out you’ll start to cheat if you haven’t already. It’s funny, vegans almost always cheat with the same stuff. raw fish and eggs most common. Some with a rare steak. Some of the most nutritious foods on earth.

        And if you didn’t know, the cheapest Walmart egg has more nutrition than any plant food on earth. If you consider variety. There may be a few plants with 1 nutrient in high amount but as far as balanced nutrition, the shittiest egg is better than anything in the vegan section.

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