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So, instead of using data to decide your position, you decide your position ahead of time and ignore any information to the contrary that isn’t a decades long study? I would think the more reasonable position for you to take would be that you don’t know if eating animal products are necessary for long-term multigenerational health outcomes.

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masterofballs@exploding-heads.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
Oh there is plenty of data. Just look at life expectancy. Look at the highest meat consumption per person vs the lowest. India has a shit life expectancy and eats very little meat. Japan and hongkong have very high meat consumption and live very long.

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- chetradley@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  You’re assuming correlation implies causation. There’s also a direct correlation between life expectancy and per capita wealth, which you’re conveniently ignoring. Correcting for external factors, there’s been an association between vegetarian/vegan diets and lower prevalence of disease and obesity.
  
  Adventist study findings show inverse correlation between meat consumption and certain health risk factors.
  
  Blue zones with the highest life expectancy all share very low meat consumption (less than 5 servings per month)..
  
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  - masterofballs@exploding-heads.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    
    there’s been an association between vegetarian/vegan diets and lower prevalence of disease and obesity.
    
    I think you are implying association means causation. There’s also a direct correlation between life expectancy and per capita wealth, which you’re conveniently ignoring. Most of the data you pull that kinda garbage from comes from highly biased seventh day Adventist studies.
    
    The point is there has never been a observational study that has shown eating meat decreases life expectancy. And looking at per meat consumption at a society level we see high meat consumption correlate with longer life not shorter life. Which indicates to me vegetarian diets are shit. I do believe I recently read about a Harvard study which showed low carb mostly meat diets reduce diabetes markers at-least. If you are interested I can get you the link.
    
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    chetradley@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    I’m more interested in the supposed study correlating high meat consumption with longer life. Do you have one to support that claim, as I’ve provided two that seem counter to it?
    
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