People who think that the Internet shouldn't contain things they don't want to see don't understand the history of the Internet or the nature of the Internet. The fediverse is just more honest about it.
It's like if you were in the biggest shopping mall in the world with billions of people visiting every day, would you leave a 5 year old child wandering around there? Do you think mall security would be powerful enough to make sure that 5 year old was safe? I think it's absurd to think so.
I hope to keep my kid off the Internet unsupervised until I think he's emotionally ready to see the goatse guy. Why? Because I grew up with the Internet, I know what's on here.
squashkin@wolfballs.com 2 years ago
well I think reddit implemented some of those more because they're control freaks but I can see how some of those things arise as a defense against these kinds of posts
I think it was more common on the internet some time ago
the things I've seen online that "haunt" me a bit when I think of it I guess are the watchpeopledie videos, seen enough suicide and death vids. Which is why I think I posted about what people think of gore, if not on here, then on another forum, wondering what people think of this kind of stuff. I'm pretty much desensitized to it but it's not something I would really want to choose to see. If people posted it and I have to take it down as a mod or I had a job like that, I don't think I'd be bothered by it (as someone posted a woman who had a job doing this who got mental issues from it and was trying to sue her employer). Maybe not as desensitized as I just look at it as a physical thing that happens, I don't feel as emotional about it. I do feel bad for the people and things in the world and suffer myself, but I also accept that certain things are happening or happened.
iamtanmay@wolfballs.com 2 years ago
Yeah, I second this. Reddit has far far far more violent and disgusting content.
The only reason they had the tools @masterofballs@wolfballs.com mentioned, is because they are authoritarians
masterofballs@wolfballs.com 2 years ago
After being a site admin I've kinda started to think it isn't all authoritarian. Its bot and manipulation defense. For example, votes are used in the display algorithm. People will write a bot to auto down vote all post. That breaks the site algorithms. Post are not meant to start with negative karma. It screws all kinds of stuff up. People write bots to spam and make their products show up. Its cheaper than paying for advertising. A front page post where millions see it is worth thousands of dollars.
People make 20 accounts and have entire conversations with themselves to make a opinion appear more valid. Its human nature to be more likely to accept a thing if everyone around you agrees with it.
The hard part about enforcing counter measures is its difficult to do it without view point discrimination. You want people yo talk things out for themselves but it be a somewhat mirror of actual humans.
iamtanmay@wolfballs.com 2 years ago
I see. Yeah, I agree, you need these kind of measures to protect your site.
But, I think what people hate about Reddit mod/site rules are the unreasonable censorships, where they ban you if you don't obey their propaganda.
masterofballs@wolfballs.com 2 years ago
I don't want gore post. I don't consider that free speech. Its not a expression. You can't wave someone's decapitated head around a town square.
iamtanmay@wolfballs.com 2 years ago
You can, if you live in Kabul. Its their govt endorsed free speech to put peoples heads on spikes in the middle of the city. Ofc privilege only applies to members of the Taliban.
masterofballs@wolfballs.com 2 years ago
I know your joking but the Taliban can host their own instance I suppose with their own cultural norms.