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• Telodzrum@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

  Ahh yes, taxes which have existed since the first and most basic state came into being – millennia before capitalism, even at its most primitive, was conceived of or practiced – are capitalist.

  It’s kind of incredible how teenagers on the internet use the word “capitalism” the same way boomers on facebook use “communism.”

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  • Sketchpad01@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

    My bad, just meant to argue that taxes weren’t explicitly communist. I don’t have any strong feelings for or agains t communism yet, maybe I’ll look into it later. Just hate to see people use thr name of an economic system as a debate ender, although I suppose I did the same. Guess it’s just the debater in me wishing we could have actual structural arguments on thr internet instead of throwing slang words around.

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    • mayo@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

      Socialism is the thing you’re looking for. And in my opinion, market socialism.

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• irkli@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

  Yes! Tax the capitalists! I’m glad you agree.

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• frevaljee@kbin.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

  Oh yes, an ideology defined by private ownership and small government intervention is also somehow responsible for the basis of government intervention - taxes.

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  • explodicle@local106.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

    They don’t actually believe in small government intervention at all - they want the goverment to enforce private property rights and then just tax a little back, below the cost of bringing it into production.

    The big lie is that private property is natural, and thus its enforcement is small.

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    • frevaljee@kbin.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

      A government which only enforces private property rights is still significantly smaller than most alternatives.

      Enforcement of private property rights is a part of virtually all governments, and then you pile all other stuff on top of that hence making the government bigger.

      And ofc the taxes will be below the profits, no sane person would make any investments in anything if it was above the profits.

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      • explodicle@local106.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

        But I’m comparing against socialism, not against most capitalist countries. We don’t need to encourage investment where the factors of production are owned by the workers themselves.

        The ancaps illustrate my point - it’s absolute monarchy that they falsely claim is anarchy.

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