This timeline is Altered not Alternate They did the same thing for First Contact, and ENT add just enough time travel to excuse not making the show into a history documentary yet none the less its considered part of the same story as everything that was made before but came later in the timeline.
Comment on Jim Kirk on Pike’s Enterprise - Inverse dives into an analysis of canon constraints and lack thereof
GuyFleegman@startrek.website 1 year agoand there could be some minor adjustments with the characters to accommodate the story that showrunners want to tell.
Other than the Kelvin timeline where they just said up front “THIS IS A DIFFERENT TIMELINE,” when has that ever happened?
With SNW, we’re talking about showrunners who contrived a reason for Pike to be “fleet captain” for a single episode just so they could have Kirk and Pike interact without invalidating one line from TOS: “Court Martial.” These showrunners really strike you as fans who are going to make “minor adjustments” and justify it with “well you see back in S02E03 we changed the timeline, so we can do whatever we want!”
passinglurker@startrek.website 1 year ago
GuyFleegman@startrek.website 1 year ago
They did the same thing for First Contact
Has the writing staff of First Contact or Enterprise ever confirmed, on the record, that it was their intent to alter the timeline or depict an altered timeline, respectively?
passinglurker@startrek.website 1 year ago
You’re moving the goalposts asking for such explicits beyond what is reasonable. Why would they need to spell it out for you in an interview when they have the actors say “these events weren’t supposed to happen” repeatedly on screen? Are all viewers expected to familiarize themselves with every entertainment news article around and about a film or TV show in order to understand it? These things should be intuitive, and if what is intuitive isn’t the writer’s intent then that’s just a failure on the writer’s part.
GuyFleegman@startrek.website 1 year ago
they have the actors say “these events weren’t supposed to happen” repeatedly on screen?
The purpose of the “time has been altered and we need to fix the timeline” conversation that occurs near the beginning of every time travel story is definitely not to inform the audience that every subsequent installment of Star Trek will occur in an altered timeline.
In fact, it’s just the opposite. The entire reason the characters are so concerned with restoring the timeline is that they want to return to their lives in an unaltered timeline.
Sanctus@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I’m all for keeping canon intact if its possible. But I hope they don’t get trigger happy with contrivances just to keep a line from the 60’s intact that more or less doesn’t matter too much. Does it really matter how much Kirk and Pike interacted? No, not really. But I can say I trust these writers, this show seems to care about Trek and what made it good a lot more than doing their own thing 100% (looking at you Disco).
GuyFleegman@startrek.website 1 year ago
I don’t personally care one way or another. My point is that the SNW writers are making a clear and concerted effort to maintain continuity.
AzPsycho@lemmy.world 1 year ago
100% agree with you. The TOS loyalists are going out of their way to find excuses to hate this show. It’s the best series I have seen since TNG and I am not saying the others were bad. I actually like all of them with the exception of Discovery because eit focuses so heavily on one plotline and one character.
This is an ensemble with humor when it needs it and is more true to the heart of Trek than people are giving it credit.
Sanctus@lemmy.world 1 year ago
It is truly a return to the Golden Age of TNG/DS9/Voy and I’m all here for it. I missed the episode adventures. The way Disco does it is not it with the stories taking the whole season and the characters taking a back seat