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STRIKINGdebate2@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

• EsotericEmbryo@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Yes it is one of the many arbitrary things that that specific religion demonizes. Probably has its roots from way back in the day so that women couldnt effectively run away from the men and get very far. Same reason most Muslim women arent allowed to drive. To this day they still have to have permission to leave and go do things without a man.

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  • VoxAdActa@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Probably has its roots from way back in the day so that women couldnt effectively run away from the men and get very far.

    Can't speak to Muslim culture, but European culture way back in the day didn't want women riding horses because of sex.

    There are a lot of branches on that tree, but the biggest one is that since horseback was believed to be capable of rupturing the hymen (hymen science has progressed quite a bit since I last looked into it, so I don't know if that's actually a thing), it was the same thing as having sex for women. They believed that women got sexual pleasure from it (which, I guess, was a bad thing), that they'd start craving horses as lovers instead of humans, and all sorts of weird shit that only twisted, perpetually horny dudes would think of.

    So the sidesaddle was invented. It allowed women to ride horses while, literally and figuratively, keeping their legs closed.

    Unfortunately, riding sidesaddle is a massive pain in the ass, so that fad didn't last long. Maybe about fifty years or so of general popularity (because, obviously, you can still get a sidesaddle and learn to ride in it today, if you want, for whatever reason) over the course of all horse-domestication history.

    Of course, like so many things from European history, this primarily applied to rich/noble people. The poor didn't have the luxury of giving a fuck about most of it.

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    • Lumidaub@feddit.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      horseback was believed to be capable of rupturing the hymen

      It can do that but that’s only of any interest if you think a piece of skin is important.

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      • Dark_Blade@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Even crazier is the belief that women would start craving horses as lovers if they kept riding horesback. Like…wut

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  • STRIKINGdebate2@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I gave a Google. It’s seen as a taboo thing in many Middle Eastern societies based on a verse from Muhammad which curses the private parts of women who touch saddles. Curiously, this line has been debunked and the Quran literally mentions nothing about women riding horses.

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    • Lumidaub@feddit.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Wait, sorry, I’m trying to understand. It’s “based on a verse from Muhammad” but it’s not in the Quran? Where is the verse then? And why does not being in the Quran invalidate it if it’s by Muhammad?

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      • crowbar@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Theres quran and theres hadith, quran is infallible, hadith not so much, this “verse of muhammad” is a hadith, possibly the falsified one

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      • ZzyzxRoad@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Either way, it still wouldn’t make much sense for women to not be allowed to drive, but allowed to ride a horse.

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    • graham1@gekinzuku.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Isn’t that basically the same logic why European women would often ride sidesaddle?

      This was initially conceived as a way to protect the hymen of aristocratic girls, and thus the appearance of their being virgins.[2][3]

      en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sidesaddle

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  • PsyconicX@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I haven’t watched the video. Just from the thumbnail I’m seeing a half-naked woman riding a horse. The message is Muslim women should be properly clothed and remain humble rather than seeking attention. If you’re wondering if this also applies to men, it does. “Give it a google if you don’t believe me 🤷‍♂️”

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    • Renevar@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      “I haven’t watched the video but I’ve decided I know what it’s message must be from the thumbnail, so you’re wrong.”

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    • utopianfiat@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Failing to dress in a particular way is not “seeking attention”.

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• Phanatik@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  You could write a book on things that women aren't allowed to do in Islam.

  Except they did write it.

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• fkn@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I mark them as hate speech when I see them then block their poster. They are basically the mission version of “hegetsus” garbage.

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• Lemmylefty@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  This is destroying my fantasy of it being a short story about a non Muslim equestrian falling for a Muslim girl who’s afraid of horses.

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