Comment on Burnham signals support for bill to make ‘Black English’ and ‘Asian English’ census options

• fakeman_pretendname@feddit.uk ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  No. The ethnicity is “white”. No idea about the other one.

  In the census, the race was simply “white British, white Irish, white other” and “black British, black carribean, black african” for example.

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  • idealism_nearby@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Even the concept of a “white” ethnic group is a recent one. It wasn’t that long ago, all southern and eastern Europeans would not be considered “white”. Or more specifically, would not be considered the in-group of western civilisation. Which is the definition that “white” serves in the modern day.

    It simply doesn’t exist.

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  • mlcgdrhu@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Yes. You’re very wrong.

    Within the “White” ethnic group, 74.4% (44.4 million) of usual residents in England and Wales identified their ethnic group as “English, Welsh, Scottish, Northern Irish or British”. This was a decrease from 80.5% (45.1 million) in 2011, and a continued decrease from 2001, when 87.5% (45.5 million) identified as “White: British”.

    www.ons.gov.uk/…/census2021

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    • fakeman_pretendname@feddit.uk ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      …and this shows the census before (2001) and the census after (2011), after a bunch of bnp proto-ukippy knobs had cried enough to try and get “English” added to sub-options for “ethnic group”.

      Also, “Ethnic group” is still not the same as “Race”.

      I’m sure I’ve only ever seen this argument once before, and I’m now suspecting it was probably from you.

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      • mlcgdrhu@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Remind me… How is English not an ethnicity?

        How can you have only seen this argument once before if “bnp proto-ukippy knobs” were crying about it three decades ago? Good to hear someone else has corrected you on Lemmy tho, you’re disingenuous.

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