What else is the point of posts like this? If we can simply make grand generalizations about what is/is not ok in a relationship, why should anyone feel ashamed for saying that “queerness is gross”, or any other value claim about relationships?
It’s fine if you don’t have the wherewithal to actually discuss implications of your value judgements, but don’t expect law makers to consider you if the most reasoned response you can have is “fuCkiNG cRiNGelOrDS!”. With that level of maturity, I certainly hope you’re not dating anyone!
You can’t possibly be so stupid that you think all socially frowned upon behavior should be criminalized, but you’re here pretending you don’t understand the problem so maybe you are.
If there is something inherently wrong/unethical about a circumstance that elicits broad public negative reactions, then the legality of it should be called into question. Posts criticizing relationships due to age gaps fixate on notions that age-experience gaps necessarily involve conversion and/or abuse - if that’s true, then we ought to do something about said abuse, which is why age of consent laws exist. If 19 year olds are not capable of making adult decisions, then they ought not be considered adults. If they are adults, they should be respected in their decisions, unless other information regarding conversion and/or abuse exists.
OPs mene is suggesting conversion and abuse where I have not otherwise seen any evidence. Corgan may be a piece of shit for many reasons, but suggestions that Mendel has been powerless in the relationship due to simple age-differences erases her personhood, especially if we want to agree that people are adults by 19.
It’s not that I don’t understand the issue, it’s that the framing of the issue is primarialy from a Puritan sensibility that posits women are inherently victims of predator men, which does nothing to enhance women’s personhood or rational ability. It’s incredibly similar to sex work discourses where women are described as inherently victims and incapable of engaging in sex work or their own volition.
Damionsipher@lemmy.world 5 days ago
What else is the point of posts like this? If we can simply make grand generalizations about what is/is not ok in a relationship, why should anyone feel ashamed for saying that “queerness is gross”, or any other value claim about relationships? It’s fine if you don’t have the wherewithal to actually discuss implications of your value judgements, but don’t expect law makers to consider you if the most reasoned response you can have is “fuCkiNG cRiNGelOrDS!”. With that level of maturity, I certainly hope you’re not dating anyone!
CrimeIsLegalNow@ani.social 5 days ago
You can’t possibly be so stupid that you think all socially frowned upon behavior should be criminalized, but you’re here pretending you don’t understand the problem so maybe you are.
Damionsipher@lemmy.world 5 days ago
If there is something inherently wrong/unethical about a circumstance that elicits broad public negative reactions, then the legality of it should be called into question. Posts criticizing relationships due to age gaps fixate on notions that age-experience gaps necessarily involve conversion and/or abuse - if that’s true, then we ought to do something about said abuse, which is why age of consent laws exist. If 19 year olds are not capable of making adult decisions, then they ought not be considered adults. If they are adults, they should be respected in their decisions, unless other information regarding conversion and/or abuse exists.
OPs mene is suggesting conversion and abuse where I have not otherwise seen any evidence. Corgan may be a piece of shit for many reasons, but suggestions that Mendel has been powerless in the relationship due to simple age-differences erases her personhood, especially if we want to agree that people are adults by 19.
It’s not that I don’t understand the issue, it’s that the framing of the issue is primarialy from a Puritan sensibility that posits women are inherently victims of predator men, which does nothing to enhance women’s personhood or rational ability. It’s incredibly similar to sex work discourses where women are described as inherently victims and incapable of engaging in sex work or their own volition.