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Comment on Are there world laws? Where if you violate them a group of soldiers will come to your country and take you to the ICC? If the ICC is moot then why have it? or for that matter the UN?

AmbitiousProcess@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

Where if you violate them a group of soldiers will come to your country and take you to the ICC?

The ICC doesn’t have its own “soldiers”, military, police force, etc. They rely entirely on the cooperation of other countries.

For example, if Benjamin Netanyahu had an arrest warrant, traveled to a country that works with the ICC, and the country chose to comply with the ICC’s orders, then they might arrest him with their local police force, then transfer him to an ICC-partnered detention facility either in that country or elsewhere.

But if he goes to a country that doesn’t care that he’s a genocidal warmonger, or simply doesn’t respect the authority of the ICC, the ICC just doesn’t really have the ability to do anything about that. (other than, say, getting other countries aligned with them to put some sort of pressure on that country, or by choosing not to assist that country with its own prosecutions or transfer of inmates if the ICC gets custody of them after they did a crime against that country at some point)

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hoshikarakitaridia@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
A few things to add to that:

not all crimes qualify for extradition, it’s usually to do with the severity of the crime

some international bodies may be involved iirc, like interpol and Europol etc

it can also be done by three letter agencies or even just normal police. The extradition is usually just burocracy that slowly escalates up the levels of justice and finally to the indicting country

geopolitics can make this extremely complicated, because countries never cooperate out of goodwill, usually there’s underlying treaties that bind a bunch of them to commit to extradition

usually criminals get away with something, because the countries they live in don’t cooperate with an extradition in various ways

because it’s international and countries act in their own best interest, jurisdictional boundaries are sometimes extremely weird and assumed jurisdiction can make things difficult (multiple charges for a crime, countries not extraditing because they don’t trust the judicial branch of another country, weird quirks of things like law in space and maritime law, …
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