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diaphragmwp@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

Erm, but ackhually, technically you don’t have to use Vercel or whatever, it’s just because that everyone does that

It’s like LG TVs asking you to accept a bunch of technically optional 300 page license agreements and putting the cursor on “accept”. Technically you may decide otherwise, but you need to already be aware of this beforehand, and most people who would knowingly buy a “smart” TV in the first place would not know.

Hack Club is putting big brands of their sponsors everywhere. You may (sometimes) use more free solutions, but you would need to know these beforehand. And the biggest point of Hack Club is education. Most would literally not know and assume those are the only options.

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carlisle@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
Erm, but ackhually, technically you don’t have to use Vercel or whatever, it’s just because that everyone does that

Huh? That’s not what I said. You’re combining 2 separate points I made into one that were never meant to go together. Please respond to what I actually said, instead of changing it into something stupid so it’s easier to have a come back against.

It’s like LG TVs asking you to accept…

What is like that?

Hack Club is putting big brands of their sponsors everywhere.

I assume you mean products, not brands? Not really. Sometimes sponsors donate items, and YSWS organizers might put the item as a prize if it makes sense.

But let’s see, Hack Clubs biggest sponsors are…

Elon Musk. Haven’t seen anything about him or any of his companies or products in Hack Club, besides his name on a sponsor list somewhere.

The Thiel fellowship. Same as above.

GitHub. Some guides assume you use GitHub, but like I said previously, that’s because most people use it, and most non HC tutorials also assume you use it. It’s not because they’re a sponsor. Actually, Hack Club has their own free alternative to GitHub and GH Codespaces. They’re definitely not trying to get people stuck on GitHub.

AMD: They donated 16 of their GPUs ig?

NASA (their a partner, idk if they technically sponsored HC): They donated some tickets to the Kennedy Space Center as possible prizes for an event. Is that considered bad? I really don’t think so.

CEO of Shopify: haven’t seen anything related to Shopfiy or any products, advertisements etc.

CEO of Dell: same as above

MIT: same as above

Girls Who Code: same as above

Open Sauce: like we talked about previously, they have partnered together for events, but not to promote any products. It doesn’t seem terrible to me.

Those are Hack Club’s 10 biggest donors. I think this should be pretty obvious: Hack Club accepts donations. They do not sell out to big tech.
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- diaphragmwp@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
  It’s like LG TVs asking you to accept…
  
  What is like that?
  
  I was making an simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/analogy with those two paragraphs.
  
  I assume you mean products, not brands?
  
  Both.
  
  Elon Musk. Haven’t seen anything about him or any of his companies or products in Hack Club, besides his name on a sponsor list somewhere.
  
  Can’t be bothered to find the source but he quit a while ago because someone on Xitter managed to convince him that HC is in relation to anti-Tesla protests. Which is false because they would never bite the feeding hands for this exact reason.
  
  Actually, Hack Club has their own free alternative to GitHub
  
  You mean, git.hackclub.app? hackclub.app is the community hosting platform, so let’s use that argument against you. Filtering by not forks, not mirrors, not templates (but including archived), there are 6 pages full of 20 items plus 4 more. I don’t know how to filter out 1 commit ones, but there are 12 repos named “test”. Total:
  
  $ bc <<<"6*20+4-12" 112
  
  Now, lets see the page for some old event, like highseas.hackclub.com . The “last time we did this” portion is talking about an even earlier event, “arcade”. It says “5000” high schoolers participated, implying at least one project per each AND rounded.
  
  and GH Codespaces
  
  Using software maintained by Microsoft, promoting an idea basically only Microsoft is doing. It’s absolutely pointless even on most Chromebooks. Nice try.
  
  AMD: They donated 16 of their GPUs ig?
  
  …and the whole build using the Ryzen® AI thing.
  
  The Thiel fellowship, Shopify
  
  The bare minimum promotion via logo.
  
  MIT, Girls Who Code, Open Sauce
  
  Also non-profits bringing their own politics here.
  
  NASA
  
  Gotta love promoting US nationalism. Also, “talking to astronauts” actually means “talking to someone who will have to talk to 40 more people with their stupid questions to afford food”.
  
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