What? Mass-decompiling proprietary software or making shitty companies like Adobe irrelevant is not awesome? Alright, what about advancements in medicine and science, even just mapping a fly for fun? Well, if saving lives is not awesome for you, then what about game modding that’s currently peaking? Entire games merged together, many games I play see mods that I thought were impossible before, etc.? Entertainment bad too? Alright, then, what about deciphering historical writings, texts, better archeology, pattern finding, etc.? History is not awesome either? I guess the only thing I can offer you is a personal robot assistant that could work around your house doing chores and stuff (we’re not there yet, but rapidly nearing it), but I guess that’s not awesome either
Comment on AI is mass decompiling games. That's both awesome and scary.
Pratai@piefed.ca 3 days ago
There is noting awesome about what AI does.
REDACTED@infosec.pub 2 days ago
OptimusComposite@lemmy.zip 2 days ago
If decompiling proprietary software becomes easy and cheap then these companies will just not allow you to download the binaries any more, furthering the push of cloud computing and gaming. “You will own nothing and you will be happy”
As for the medical applications, clearly OP is talking about AI colloquially, and thus referring mostly to LLMs and generative AI, which has not had much influence on the medical fields unlike other AI technologies like Alphafold. Equating the two is being ignorant (willfully or not idk)
Is entertainment and archaeology worth the cost of the environmental damage, mass plagiarism, and the funding of companies who are involved mass surveillance, pointless wars and causing financial / economic collapse?
The technology is cool for some specific tasks, and if it were brought about in a sustainable, ethical, and cautious way it would’ve been great. But ignoring all of its downsides and claiming people who don’t support this are “out of touch” “hipsters” is stupid
REDACTED@infosec.pub 2 days ago
If decompiling proprietary software becomes easy and cheap then these companies will just not allow you to download the binaries any more, furthering the push of cloud computing and gaming. “You will own nothing and you will be happy”
Call me a fool, but I really believe most people would not move their workstation/PC/laptop to a cloud. There will always be massive demand for hardware and even if west suddenly goes the route of not selling consumer hardware - China will enter the chat quite fast. By now you can build a fully Chinese PC.
As for the medical applications, clearly OP is talking about AI colloquially, and thus referring mostly to LLMs and generative AI, which has not had much influence on the medical fields unlike other AI technologies like Alphafold. Equating the two is being ignorant (willfully or not idk)
To be fair, I never said “LLM”, I’m speaking generally about AI because the data centers and money isn’t exclusively going into LLMs - it’s the entire portfolio being advanced.
Is entertainment and archaeology worth the cost of the environmental damage, mass plagiarism, and the funding of companies who are involved mass surveillance, pointless wars and causing financial / economic collapse?
There is nothing we can do about this. I personally hate cars way more than AI and believe that millions of people aimlessly driving around for fun/entertainment is far worse. Like I said previously, you driving around for 1 hour for fun is far worse than me using AI for 10x longer. Probably closer to 100x. And there is nothing I or you can do about what other people and companies are ready to pay for, and if there is demand, there will be offerings.
I also believe AI will advance quite far (relatively to where we are now), to the point it will help humans develop and live more efficiently. Sure, AI will consume terawatts of power, but what if it ends up creating super-optimized motors/engines saving terawatts of power? Energy generation, wasteful manufacturing, etc can all be managed and improved with AI, negating much of the AI consequences.
Mass plagiarism is an interesting one because I’ve been always pro-piracy and everything I’ve ever made myself has been non-profit, so I’m really not the best person for this argument. Do you support the creation of Adobe and Microsoft-like products, by AI, to be used by anyone for free? Well, that’s plagiarism too.
But ignoring all of its downsides and claiming people who don’t support this are “out of touch” “hipsters” is stupid
That was a response to “there is nothing awesome about what AI does”. It’s just… factually false, intellectually lazy. Your arguments are far more logical.
Pratai@piefed.ca 2 days ago
If that’s you’re argument for “AI is awesome!” you have no argument.
Game modding is turning into vibe-coded slop by kids that have no fucking clue what they’re doing. It’s no different than the hacks that think they’re musicians because they can knuckle a sentence into a prompt
Fucking hacks.
REDACTED@infosec.pub 2 days ago
No you goofball, AI allows modders to decompile the games and bring modding to the next level. The one I’m currently playing only had modded assets for 2-3 years. Now there are like 40 mods that change the gameplay itself. Awesome!
Pratai@piefed.ca 2 days ago
Oh! Well shit! You should have said so from the beginning! That’s totally worth destroying our envorment and making people into idiots have to outsource their opinions because they can’t think for themselves.
Take a walk kid.
magnue@lemmy.world 3 days ago
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Psionicsickness@reddthat.com 3 days ago
It could fix your spelling, at least.
Pratai@piefed.ca 3 days ago
The irony!
No, kiddo. It’s apple’s enshitification that causes this. When they rolled the on-device autocorrect that used to be near perfect into an off-device AI based bullshit disaster- this is the result. I now have to spell-check and check for wrong autocorrections because AI has fucked that up too and it cannot be turned off or reverted.
So, thanks for helping prove my point.
jaycifer@lemmy.world 2 days ago
I turned off autocorrect on my iphone at least a decade ago but left spellcheck on so I still get the red lines if I mess something up. It sounds like that could benefit you.
lenabee@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 days ago
Hey, if you’re anti-AI you shouldn’t be using apple products. I understand that owning a device can be difficult to move away from without an additional purchase, but Apple is still listening to you and reading your data. Your usage statistics are being used to prove to retailers that their products are worth selling to their customers. Even using an old iPhone is a silent vote for Apple to continue their trajectory
REDACTED@infosec.pub 2 days ago
Just to be safe, they should throw out all devices that radiate EMF. I heard tinfoil hat might help against the AI overlords reading your brain signals
gandalf_der_13te@feddit.org 2 days ago
🤨️ are you sure? because autocorrect is always the first thing i turn off, it sucks so fucking much! have you tried just setting your language to “undefined”?