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• carlisle@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  FYI, the game jam was not part of Open Sauce, it was completely separate. William created Open Sauce, but he was not very involved in the making of the game jam, he was just invited as a guest.

  That said, I agree with the sentiment of your post. I really don’t see anything wrong with the video.

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• diaphragmwp@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  in an event that they all take part in

  Open Sauce? Believe it or not, it also represents the interests of the rich. Guess why they are there.

  William literally created and operates at a loss

  Created what? What loss? :.|:;?

  the ad is for a non profit

  So? A NaNprofit it is, yes. With a few million in the bank. It is funded by corporations (previously also Elon Musk until someone on xitter convinced him it’s somehow related to tesla protests, separate story) to promote their products to literal kids who don’t know any better. And they are bad even at that. Ah, and promoting US nationalism: redirect.invidious.io/watch?v=qToD2vf3yPY (note title; you can also see how well they are spending money on video editors here, unlisted for a reason).

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  • ChilledPeppers@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    He created open sauce, and has been operating it at a loss.

    That said, this changes my views on hackclub. I really thought that they were a nornal non profit.

    I am not totally convinced that they are marionettes as you put it, but I can agree that they do get paid and therefore suck up to corpos tho. Altho I would say most youtubers do to get sponsored.

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    • diaphragmwp@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Oh, he did? Sorry for missing that.

      Although if you go to the opensauce.com webshit (com stands for commercial btw) and scroll down a bit, you may find a whole entire page of company logos. I don’t see how this would result in any loss, I guess I am at a loss here.

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  • carlisle@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    What products are they supposedly promoting to kids? The link you gave for that doesn’t work. I’ve never seen them do that, and I’ve heard Hack Club staff specifically state that they do not do that, even if a corp sponsors them.

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    • diaphragmwp@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      11 hour account hmmm…

      Anyways, that is kind of the whole point of the sponsorship. Companies want AT MINIMUM a giant logo shining on some page if it looks like it’s for some cause (in this case kids education). Products related to sponsors are usually put up as prizes and/or have events built around them as constraint. Example quote from blueprint.hackclub.com/prototype :

      Build your most amazing AI powered hardware gadget using:

      • An AI PC powered by AMD Ryzen AI processor
      • A Hugging Face Le Robot arm
      • Any additional hardware you need to customize your project
        and use it to solve a challenging problem

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      • carlisle@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        Also, how are they advertising through Slack? I’m active on there and I haven’t seen that. They have announcements about their own events, but they don’t advertise products at all.

        And yes, it is unusual for Slack to be used as a non-formal space. They use it because most other options can’t handle such a huge amount of users. Not sure how that’s even relevant though?

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      • carlisle@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        Yes, I just joined. So?

        How do you expect them to get money without sponsorships? Yes, they accept donations from companies sometimes as prizes for events. So what? Is there something inherently wrong with that?

        As you pointed out, Prototype is an exception. I had forgotten about that, but yeah they did have some AMD hardware at the Hackathon that you were expected to use. And I’m not a fan of that. I’m pretty sure that’s the only time they’ve ever done that though. Even things like GitHub is one of their biggest donors, yet they specfically make a point to allow you to use whatever code hosting server you want.

        Donors benefit because resources going to help teens build technical projects benefits the industry as a whole, rather than the donor specifically.

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