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ducktumn@lemmy.zip 3 weeks agoRape is a crime no matter what gender did it. If a man rapes a woman he should be put to jail. But it is also a fact that so many girls willingly sleeps with a man then calls it rape because she feels guilty. I feel awful for actual rape victims but also for so many men wrongfully accused of rape. We should have a gender neutral middle ground.
Where are your “so many men” statistics?
I’m a dude that was falsely accused but everything I’ve seen shows I’m a very small statistic, especially compared to women who are raped w/o consequences for their rapist and many slut shamed. It’s terrible and life-altering to be falsely accused, but so is being raped and that happens far more often.
kreel@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
The number of men who claim innocence and the number of men who are actually innocent are two different things. Don’t let a real, but otherwise statistical anomaly, distract you from the actual harm done. A male victim and a female victim have equal rights to justice but a woman and a man do not have equal chances of experiencing sexual assault. Which cause deserves your attention?
Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 2 weeks ago
On what evidence do you base this claim? I was under the impression that the actual rates are similar, but male-victims very rarely report SA.
kreel@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Statistics - National Sexual Violence Resource Center (NSVRC) share.google/s8pcZdJvkkp4HGsDZ
Looks like overall it’s about 2:1. And more to the original point, no more than 10% of claims are potentially falsified (or as little as 2%). I’ll admit, I didn’t have this data originally.
Which is to say - the harm to falsely accused men and the harm to legitimately raped or harassed women are on totally different scales.
Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 2 weeks ago
I’m not comparing the two. I’m addressing only the point that I quoted above:
Your link says 1 in 5 women (20%) experience rape, and 24.8% of men experience “sexual violence”. That seems to indicate that men and women experience SA at about the same rate. This is consistent with my understanding.
Your “2:1” claim seems to arise from “Nationwide, 81% of women and 43% of men reported experiencing some form of sexual harassment and/or assault in their lifetime.”
I will focus on the word “reported”: It is my understanding that male victims of SA report their assault at much lower rates than female victims.
I would note that your overall thesis does not seem to rely on this particular point. You can abandon this point without detracting from your main argument.