Sure, because depression and trauma clearly must be due to the smartphone. It’s not like the smartphone might be the escape route and you’re now locking the child in to whatever caused the trauma (most likely either school, domestic violence or loss / isolation).
Not saying it can’t possibly be cyber-bullying or the s̶o̶c̶i̶a̶l̶ ̶a̶l̶g̶o̶r̶i̶t̶h̶m̶ manipulation engine, but just blindly taking away the things your child is escaping into the most is a shortcut to either an estranged or dead one.
Wow, equating a child’s coping mechanism and trauma escapes with giving them drugs is a low that’s genuinely impressive. And infuriating.
I never said anything against therapy, that’s of course essential. So is making sure there is no immediately harmful stuff around them (which entertainment, games and social interactions via internet that are used to cope are NOT fucking part of). But taking away their coping mechanism is literally the worst thing you can do and will only inflict even more damage.
I went through this fucking shit two decades ago (but with 2000’s computer & internet) and I’ll die on this hill. Implying that a phone is inherently damaging is regurgitated boomer bullshit, and taking it away if it’s their coping mechanism / outlet completely from a traumatized child will lead to either estrangement later or suicide earlier.
And of course you know there are games that and movies and serieses that shouldnt be consumed by kids. I hope we can agreed that kids shouldnt watch Breaking Bad and play something like Postal.
Implying that a phone is inherently damaging
I never said inherently.
and taking it away if it’s their coping mechanism / outlet completely from a traumatized child will lead to either estrangement later or suicide earlier.
Probably as likely as suicide when they still have it.
How come suicide rates did not drop since the advent of the phone?
You seem to imply that the phone is spmehow aiding psychological Regeneration (probably with all the Fake News, the constant barrage of negativity, sexialized Advertisement etc. I bet that is curing)
Natanox@discuss.tchncs.de 5 weeks ago
Sure, because depression and trauma clearly must be due to the smartphone. It’s not like the smartphone might be the escape route and you’re now locking the child in to whatever caused the trauma (most likely either school, domestic violence or loss / isolation).
Not saying it can’t possibly be cyber-bullying or the s̶o̶c̶i̶a̶l̶ ̶a̶l̶g̶o̶r̶i̶t̶h̶m̶ manipulation engine, but just blindly taking away the things your child is escaping into the most is a shortcut to either an estranged or dead one.
derAbsender@piefed.social 5 weeks ago
So the if the Phone is an escape and escapes are a-okay, when are we arguing in favor of drugs for children?
Shouldnt it be both: limiting or prohibiting escapes for children and therapy?
Otherwise you are adding a damaging coping mechanism to untreated trauma.
Natanox@discuss.tchncs.de 5 weeks ago
Wow, equating a child’s coping mechanism and trauma escapes with giving them drugs is a low that’s genuinely impressive. And infuriating.
I never said anything against therapy, that’s of course essential. So is making sure there is no immediately harmful stuff around them (which entertainment, games and social interactions via internet that are used to cope are NOT fucking part of). But taking away their coping mechanism is literally the worst thing you can do and will only inflict even more damage.
I went through this fucking shit two decades ago (but with 2000’s computer & internet) and I’ll die on this hill. Implying that a phone is inherently damaging is regurgitated boomer bullshit, and taking it away if it’s their coping mechanism / outlet completely from a traumatized child will lead to either estrangement later or suicide earlier.
derAbsender@piefed.social 5 weeks ago
Why? Because to me that is very equatable.
Drugs are an escape from trauma just as well. Social Media is just as addicitve.
Why is it in any way wrong? (You did not call it that way but that seems to be the Message)
Only If you ignore the science, especially for social media.
And of course you know there are games that and movies and serieses that shouldnt be consumed by kids. I hope we can agreed that kids shouldnt watch Breaking Bad and play something like Postal.
I never said inherently.
Probably as likely as suicide when they still have it.
How come suicide rates did not drop since the advent of the phone?
You seem to imply that the phone is spmehow aiding psychological Regeneration (probably with all the Fake News, the constant barrage of negativity, sexialized Advertisement etc. I bet that is curing)
But somehow the rates are as High as the 1930s
So the “escape” and “coping mechanism” does not work as such. The mid 30s need to accept that.