oh I know it. I was in a phd program in 95/96 and back then was grand times compared to now but one reason I gave up in my first year was a position opened up and the average resume had 7 years post doc experience and one guy had 12. That combined with no one graduating before 5 years anymore (used to be 4) and 6 not being uncommon and there was a guy in our program defending on year 7. So 6+7 is 13 added to 22 and you get 35 when you are starting your career because now you have to establish your lab and publish or perish. ugh.