Comment on I'm right and the other vegans are wrong
FlyingCircus@lemmy.world 2 weeks agoI think my takeaway is that morality arguments for veganism based on subjective perceptions of sentience or suffering are not persuasive.
Many farms provide far better lives for animals than they would have in the wild. Many livestock species are far more successful and widespread because we eat them. Furthermore, if everyone was to become vegan, some livestock species would go extinct without human care. Do those who insist everyone should be vegan because animals are sentient and suffer think that we should just genocide the livestock?
Morality arguments totally depend on the perspective. I happen to agree with vegans on many points, but if your prime argument is moral, then yes I expect everyone to do wtf they want. Everyone’s morals are different.
grrgyle@slrpnk.net 2 weeks ago
The ethical argument was totally persuasive to me. I mean firstly it was a matter of challenge, but I also like opting out of cruel industries as much as I can handle.
I’m also not trying to universalise anything, but all your points so far are covered here. The use of inflammatory language to suggest I want you genocide animals is a new one I will admit.
You also didn’t answer my question.
hans@feddit.org 2 weeks ago
putting a phrase on a vegan bingo card is insufficient to rebutt the argument.
grrgyle@slrpnk.net 2 weeks ago
If you click them they expand to the rebuttal.
Also why do I need to rebut my resting decisions? I just eat what I eat.
hans@feddit.org 2 weeks ago
I didn’t say anything about you rebutting your decisions. I’m talking about you’re response to someone’s own decisions.
hans@feddit.org 2 weeks ago
this has to be the height of intellectual laziness and bad faith. you’re not actually engaging with the person who typed the comment at all.