Comment on Min wage in most states is so sad

• BillyClark@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  You sound like much more of an ass. You obviously first responded without actually reading my comment. Wasting everyone’s time instead of simply reading the comment you were responding to that had that info in it.

  And now you can’t even defend your previous points. You have to move the goalposts and bring up new points, half of which, again, I already addressed in that first comment you didn’t read. I’ll address your points and then I am done with you.

  1. Trivial. Number all ballots the same then pick one of those numbers randomly. The votes already have to be counted together. If what you’re saying is hard, then normal voting would also be hard.
  2. That already happens with our current ballots. Sounds like you don’t even vote if you don’t know that.
  3. No. Rephrasing something isn’t an argument and it doesn’t make it true.
  4. The minority power point is by far your worst one. Random ballot actually gives better proportional representation on average, and makes gerrymandering more difficult, again, as I said in the first comment you didn’t read. Unless you really believe democracy is supposed to strive to be “the tyranny of the majority,” in which case, you’re beyond help.

  I’m done with you but if you try to argue things in the future, how about doing the absolute minimum and at least read what you’re arguing against? Other ideas: Read a tiny bit of a related Wikipedia article. Double check your arguments before submitting them.

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  • Dnb@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Maybe you should yourself?

    The author of it even says its not fair or practical

    The rule is rarely, if ever, proposed as a genuine electoral system, as such a method (in Gibbard’s words) “leaves too much to chance”.[5] However, the rule is often used as a tiebreaker to encourage voters to cast honest ballots, and is sometimes discussed as a thought experiment.

    Please again tell me how someone with 90% of the vote losing to some racist psycho due to a random ballet doesn’t disenfranchise the 90% and doesn’t give the minority extreme advantages?

    60/40 is even worse. What should be a definite win becomes a toss up.

    And I was asking how they handle determining which ballot to use when there are many different ones as each town or even districts in towns have their own ballets and would need to pull their own random ballot as well.

    Minority already has far too much power, this just makes it worse not better. Some kind of ranked voting is needed, not more minority power.

    And I called you an ass because of your last paragraph on your initial reply.

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