Comment on Min wage in most states is so sad

• BillyClark@piefed.social ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Literally exactly the opposite of what you said. I addressed those exact two points in the comment you replied to as being strengths of random ballot.

  The most obvious specific benefits of random ballot to the voter are less voter dissatisfaction and feeling more like your vote counts.

  Less dissatisfaction because politicians will try to appeal to every voter. They don’t want to leave it up to chance.

  More like your vote counts because your vote has an equal chance of choosing the winner as anybody else’s vote. It doesn’t matter how anybody else votes.

  If you want to say that the opposite will happen, then you not only need to give specific reasons, but you should also know that there is already a lot of research on these types of elections. That’s why my comment seemed so informed, while yours didn’t.

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  • Dnb@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Your comment makes you sound like an ass.

    There are many thing wrong with it off the top of my head

    1. logistics

    • electronic vs paper, many different ballots, how is it chosen, etc

    2. different ballots in every single city for local issues
    3. pushes further for vote disenfranchisement
    4. massively increases minority power

    Having someone with 90% support lose to some racist nazi seems like a shit system

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    • BillyClark@piefed.social ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      You sound like much more of an ass. You obviously first responded without actually reading my comment. Wasting everyone’s time instead of simply reading the comment you were responding to that had that info in it.

      And now you can’t even defend your previous points. You have to move the goalposts and bring up new points, half of which, again, I already addressed in that first comment you didn’t read. I’ll address your points and then I am done with you.

      1. Trivial. Number all ballots the same then pick one of those numbers randomly. The votes already have to be counted together. If what you’re saying is hard, then normal voting would also be hard.
      2. That already happens with our current ballots. Sounds like you don’t even vote if you don’t know that.
      3. No. Rephrasing something isn’t an argument and it doesn’t make it true.
      4. The minority power point is by far your worst one. Random ballot actually gives better proportional representation on average, and makes gerrymandering more difficult, again, as I said in the first comment you didn’t read. Unless you really believe democracy is supposed to strive to be “the tyranny of the majority,” in which case, you’re beyond help.

      I’m done with you but if you try to argue things in the future, how about doing the absolute minimum and at least read what you’re arguing against? Other ideas: Read a tiny bit of a related Wikipedia article. Double check your arguments before submitting them.

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