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Tomorrow_Farewell@lemmy.ml ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

Poverty draft is a myth. The USian soldiers are almost all well-off.
All of them voluntarily sign up for the most vile activity one can do.

Also, poverty and especially the often pointed-out desire to get higher education are not good exists to inflict poverty, torture and death upon non-white foreigners.

Also, do you think that the countries they invade have a moral right to defend themselves and kill these monsters, or do you side with the invaders and claim that these people should live?

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BiCow@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago
I may regret responding to you but here goes…Poverty draft IS a real thing and the recruiting tactics are absolutely vile. I joined the Navy after dropping out of local community college working as a busser at a local bar/restaurant living with my grandmother and mother in the same house. The recruiters for all branches of the military are definitely predatory they get quotas to meet and signing up people for high desired or high skill positions gave them extra points. I was told that if I signed up for a 6 year enlistment I would go to college at Charleston University for 2 years, be able to have a 4 year degree after my service as well as not be deployed(ended up doing 3 back to back sea duty tours). Most of the people I served with came from a mix of stories that if played out they would not have had much to offer their families. Many people I directly worked with got in with waivers for criminal offenses and admitted that they would probably have ended up in the system and literally had no other options. The coercion that is used on vulnerable people whos literally brain is still developing is not great.

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- Tomorrow_Farewell@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago
  
  Poverty draft IS a real thing
  
  Ok. What share of the USian military comes from poor backgrounds?
  
  living with my grandmother and mother in the same house
  
  Same house or same apartment? If its the former, I struggle to see how you can claim to come from a poor background.
  
  I was told that if I signed up for a 6 year enlistment I would go to college at Charleston University for 2 years, be able to have a 4 year degree after my service
  
  You were told you would be at least defending the most evil polity in the world, one that is currently engaged in at least one genocide, all in exchange for a university degree?
  
  Many people I directly worked with got in with waivers for criminal offenses and admitted that they would probably have ended up in the system and literally had no other options.
  
  So, you are claiming that they wouldn’t even be able to stay in prison?
  
  Do you agree that the rest of the world has a moral right to defend itself against such people, including by killing them, or do you think that these people take priority and should be allowed to contribute to invasions, genocide, etc.?
  
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  - BiCow@lemmy.world ⁨42⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago
    What is the line that you are looking for exactly to label someone “poor”? I shared with you lived experience and information about the predatory actions of the military recruitment system and I now feel like you are trying to pick apart my lived experience. I was not poor enough to your standards, the people I was exposed to and shared with you was not a big enough statistic for you, the icing on the cake is just stay in prison. I was trying to point out to you that teenagers, yes teenagers are being manipulated by highly trained used car salesman style tactics. No one I served with was given proper informed consent on what they were actually signing up for.
    
    I do not support the world police that the US military has deemed to self propose themselves as to enforce whatever whim they desire. I am not in support of genocide and think that the US should be held accountable for all current and previous genocides they have contributed to and actively performed. We do not see differently on the fact that the US military should not be going around breaking international laws or violating human rights and the right of sovereignty. The name of the organization is the Department of Defense which is what it should focus on.
    
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    Tomorrow_Farewell@lemmy.ml ⁨27⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago
    
    What is the line that you are looking for exactly to label someone “poor”?
    
    Let’s say, the lowest 25-30% quantiles by income.
    
    I shared with you lived experience
    
    And somebody else can share lives experiences of soldiers from very privileged backgrounds like Platner.
    
    the icing on the cake is just stay in prison.
    
    I mean, now that they have participated in the genocidal military, they for sure should be in prison, or worse. Then being in prison initially might not have been just, but wouldn’t be worse for them, would it?
    
    No one I served with was given proper informed consent on what they were actually signing up for.
    
    They didn’t know what the USian military does?
    
    The name of the organization is the Department of Defense which is what it should focus on.
    
    Defending the invaders of Iraq and Afghanistan is still bad.
    
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