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moreeni@lemm.ee 11 months agoWhy tf is this downvoted if it’s true? Telegram’s own encryption is a joke, you can’t enable it in group chats or through desktop clients. There’s also part fo ToS that states you can’t use your own encryption in Telegram, which is pretty suspicious of a supposed privacy-friendly messenger
Floufym@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Because it is not true. WhatsApp maybe encrypted but not if you allow apple/Google backup and there is multiple known cases of backdoor.
And telegram is encrypted. The End to end encryptions has to be activated in 1 to 1 messaging if wanted. But, still, messages are encrypted for other messaging. Also, in my country my phone number is directly liked to my name, by law. As such, Telegram offer way more privacy and security than Signal or WhatsApp as there is the possibility to use a username and hide the phone number.
And anyway, most of people don’t really care. Telegram is better as it offer way more features.
yetAnotherUser@feddit.de 11 months ago
WhatsApp has an e2ee backup option and according to Signal WhatsApp doesn’t have a backdoor. Telegram does not encrypt group chats, which is terrible for privacy and security. Hiding the phone number is a solid feature, I admit. But it hardly protects you from the government, especially if you become a high-profile target.
lapingvino@lemmy.world 11 months ago
That is the biggest reason I don’t trust Signal. They implemented Whatsapp’s encryption and while technically the encryption hasn’t been broken, the way it works forces you to leave data on your device, which has been proven dangerous in practice for the kind of people it sets out to protect.
moreeni@lemm.ee 11 months ago
The encryption is set out to protect people from man in the middle (server admins reading your data). If your device is compromised then nothing can help you, the attacker can just open the app
Kekzkrieger@feddit.de 11 months ago
no matter what security you use when the attacker gets access to your (unlocked) phone you are fucked either way.
Data will always be on the end device unless you turn on disappearing messages which you can if you are concerned about that