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• cabbage@piefed.social ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Motorola is also involved in the surveillance industry, both with their own direct competitors to Flock cameras and as the owners of a company named Avigilon.

  I wouldn’t buy a Google phone in pursuit of privacy, and I wouldn’t buy a Motorola one either. Sending money that direction defeats the purpose.

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  • artyom@piefed.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I wouldn’t buy a Google phone in pursuit of privacy, and I wouldn’t buy a Motorola one either.

    So you just don’t have a phone?

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    • cabbage@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

      While there’s no ethical consumption under capitalism yadda yadda there’s still degrees of bad. I would not buy from a company who is actively building the infrastructure of the fascist surveillance state. By Google phone here I meant a Google brand phone, not a phone that comes with Google Android. Buying a Google Pixel second hand is good obviously.

      Basically I think it’s worth trying to avoid buying things from people who want to do you harm, and when compromises have to be made it’s still worth settling for less evil. Motorola and Google are not that.

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      • artyom@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

        Basically I think it’s worth trying to avoid buying things from people who want to do you harm

        There is no option like that. The most ethical hardware option is probably Fairphone but they’re still ultimately selling you spy devices that will phone all your data back to Google, which is far more harmful than even throwing a couple bucks back at Google directly for hardware that will probably end up costing them more money than it makes them when you remove all their spyware.

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