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Mordikan@kbin.earth ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

Can run on a raspberry pi and does run on a raspberry pi are two different things. I don't think raspberry pis are the solution here. I'm not cherry picking either as both are clear evils. That is the point. Current non-AI datacenters are using more power in total than AI datacenters. That may (and likely will) change, but the argument that AI datacenters are destroying the environment when the other is destroying it even more (but let's ignore that one) is moronic by nature.

That by definition isn't cherry picking. It's pointing out the logical fallacy in popular thought.

I work in devops. There is little difference in current overall consumption rates.

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TehPers@beehaw.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
Current non-AI datacenters run all of every other service on the internet.

Current AI datacenters run one class of services.

This is like saying "Europe uses

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- Mordikan@kbin.earth ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  Ok, so despite everything you said, it is NOT the environmental impact that matters. What matters (at least now) is the number of services it provides. I hate to say it but "You're just choosing to cherry pick one thing that everyone who's upset should ignore."
  
  This is gonna sound like a broken record here but... https://kbin.earth/m/gaming@beehaw.org/t/3103626/ChatGPT-LLMs-and-Automating-the-Fun-Out-of-Roleplaying-Don-t/comment/14132956#entry-comment-14132956
  
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  - TehPers@beehaw.org ⁨5⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago
    You:
    
    So why is more pollution from subject A acceptable, but less from subject B isn’t?
    
    My response (in response to another comment):
    
    It being drowned out by the advocacy against AI doesn’t mean those voices disappeared, just that there are louder voices now.
    
    You, with the nihilistic doomerism take:
    
    By virtue of even posting, YOU are pushing datacenter demand.
    
    Me, responding to the subject:
    
    people are upset about all the evils. Being more or less upset about one or the other is irrelevant. You’re just choosing to cherry pick one thing that everyone who’s upset should ignore.
    
    What was that about comment history?
    
    Anyway, in response to this:
    
    What matters (at least now) is the number of services it provides.
    
    If you’re looking for things to improve, then you prioritise the places where improvement will have the most effect.
    
    Anyway, if we want to reduce the environmental argument down as much as you are, then we might as well eliminate nearly all life on earth because living creatures produce emissions and consume water. Point is, your counterargument is complete nonsense and reductionist.
    
    People can be upset by multiple things at once despite your best attempts to argue otherwise.
    
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