Comment on The System does not work.
CannonFodder@lemmy.world 2 days agoI don’t. I want to reward innovation. And avoid some again. Human nature gets in the way in all systems.
Comment on The System does not work.
CannonFodder@lemmy.world 2 days agoI don’t. I want to reward innovation. And avoid some again. Human nature gets in the way in all systems.
SinAdjetivos@lemmy.world 2 days ago
What is your metric for “innovation”? How much you wanna bet that as soon as you define it and do a real comparison your thesis falls apart again?
Your belief on “quality of life” is vapid bullshit.
Your belief on “oppressive and authoritarian” is vapid bullshit.
Do you have some other thought terminating cliche else that you’re going to try and deflect with?
CannonFodder@lemmy.world 1 day ago
You sou d very sure of yourself, and yet also insecure with your harshness. It’s almost like you have an attachment to your desired logical outcome, but you can’t actually face any facts that explore other possibilities. I wish you the best and I’m sure you mean well, but maybe try to be a bit more open minded? Proof of innovation is all the innovation that the western capitalist countries have achieved. Much of it is irrelevant, but such is the way of science and technology - it’s a trial and error process. China has specifically copied the US capitalist model to create technological innovation. But I’m guessing you’ll just insult me for pointing such things out.
SinAdjetivos@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Would you like to provide any?
You used the word twice in your definition which is unmeasurable and vague. What is your metric for comparison?
And there’s the deflection.
You are insulting yourself by confusing vapid bullshit with evidence of anything. You insult those around you with your simple minded repeating of the party line. You have demonstrated no research, a lack of basic mathmatical literacy, applied no critical thinking all while being grossly overconfident in your pre-existing conclusions based on nothing but hot air.
You are still welcome to prove me wrong but you’re going to need something tangible, not just repeated Ayn Rand mantras.
CannonFodder@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Have you noticed the internet? That’s western innovation. There are lots of other examples all around you from the (gmo) food you eat, the medicines you take, the media you consume. There are also many Chinese companies that are now doing very well with renewable tech and EVs - the innovation for these is came from the ownership and competition when the introduction of capitalistic concepts were allowed and encouraged in China.
That’s the point. It’s not a deflection. Capitalism works to encourage innovation. You call it a deflection because what - it deflects the point you are tenuously grasping to try and make? In contrast, communism fails when people just follow the system based on outdated technology because there’s no incentive to find a better way. Obviously some innovation occurred in other systems, but it has to be legislated and managed specifically, whereas by rewarding investment in innovation by allowing ownership has clearly helped speed innovation. That you might argue otherwise is laughable. There are plenty of downsides to capitalism; it’s hilarious that you are fighting the one clear benifit of it.