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hirihit640@sh.itjust.works 5 hours agoAs explained earlier, the OG meme already acknowledged that it could be problematic. As jokes often are. Whether or not something could be a problem, and whether or not it actually becomes a problem, are two separate things.
So yes, it could be a problem. But it also could be insignificant. It’s up to the audience to judge.
Abyssian@lemmy.world 5 hours ago
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Tell me where you see this acknowledgement. All I see is mocking a man for “looking trans.”
Leaving it up for the audience to judge is how blatantly racist and discriminatory jokes get told all the time in certain places and people think that’s an acceptable world view to have.
hirihit640@sh.itjust.works 5 hours ago
See my edit. I misremembered. Turns out I was remembering some of the comments I read, not the OG meme itself.
Give me a 1 hour special of any comedian, and I will point out how some of their jokes can be problematic. Sometimes it’s just not problematic enough to end up causing any harm.
Abyssian@lemmy.world 4 hours ago
No… you’re misinterpreting something being popular with something not causing harm. This meme has dozens of down votes. Trans people are a very small percentage of the population. It could have been deeply insulting to every one of them who read it, regardless of whether or not other people upvoted.
A thing being popular with the general public does not mean that thing isn’t causing harm to a lot of people, just that it isn’t causing harm to the majority of people. That’s why we try to protect people in the minorities. Because assuming things are alright unless they somehow manage to outvote everyone else on every offensive meme isn’t logical or right.
hirihit640@sh.itjust.works 4 hours ago
I never said that something being popular meant it wouldn’t cause harm. I’m talking about potential vs outcome. This joke might cause harm, and it might not. And that just because it has the potential to cause harm, does not mean it will actually cause harm.
And unfortunately, due to millions of confounding factors, it’s almost impossible to track down whether or not one specific action had a harmful outcome. So it comes down to people’s best judgement. All you can do is point out the problematic nature (which some people did) and see what everybody else thinks.
But just because people disagree, does not mean that they don’t acknowledge the problematic nature. They just might not think it’s significant.