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• DMCMNFIBFFF@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  IIUC, 10s of millions of Chinese starved under his rule, meanwhile Taiwan got better.

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  • Tolc@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Do you know 9 million people starve to death every year under capitalism? Do you know how much famines happened in China before mao? Do you know under Mao China’s population doubled? Do you know under Mao China’s literacy rates, housing rates, healthcare improved massively? Do you know under Mao China ended the century of humiliation and liquidated all landlords who were exploiting peasants?

    Yeah taiwan got better

    By supporting israel By supporting apartheid africa By g’ciding natives of taiwan By hosting american military and being american imperial tool to control south china sea

    Too much success isnt it

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    • DMCMNFIBFFF@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Do you know 9 million people starve to death every year under capitalism?

      Are you talking about wp:OECD member states whose combined population might be 50% more numerous than was Maoist China?

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      Do you know how much famines happened in China before mao?

      I understand many, however I suppose we can both agree that the emperors were evil, as was Chiang and Japan in the 1930s and first half of the 1940s.

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      Do you know under Mao China’s population doubled?

      Yes: “every mouth has 2 hands.” IIUC, Mao was a pro-natalist.

      China seems to have done better/less bad under Deng and the 2 child policy.

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      Do you know under Mao China’s literacy rates, housing rates, healthcare improved massively?

      wp:Sequoyah

      (my bold)

      In 1821, Sequoyah completed his Cherokee syllabary, enabling reading and writing in the Cherokee language. One of the first North American Indigenous groups to gain a written language, the Cherokee Nation officially adopted the syllabary in 1825,[2] helping to unify a forcibly divided nation with new ways of communication and a sense of independence.[3] Within a quarter-century, the Cherokee Nation had reached a literacy rate of almost 100%, surpassing that of surrounding European-American settlers.[4]

      I’ll have to check out the housing and health, but other countries might also have improved such without things such as the so-called “Cultural revolution.”

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      Do you know under Mao China ended the century of humiliation and liquidated all landlords who were exploiting peasants?

      I wonder where China would be without Sun Yat-sen or even Chiang.

      (Where would Lenin be without Kerensky? Where would Stalin be without either of them?)

      Perhaps Mao could have done it without the millions of deaths.

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      Yeah taiwan got better

      By supporting israel

      The USSR was the first country to recognize Israel.

      wp:China–Israel relations

      The Nationalist government of the ROC had been historically sympathetic to the Zionist cause, while ROC founder Sun Yat-sen affirmed his support for the creation of a Jewish state.[17][18]

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      according to the lede:

      In 1950, Israel became the first country in the Middle East to recognize the PRC as the sole government in mainland China,[3] but the CCP did not reciprocate by establishing diplomatic ties due to Israel’s alignment with the Western Bloc during the Cold War.

      It seems that things are a bit nuanced here.

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      By supporting apartheid africa

      IIUC, a pariah state and one with little diplomatic relations, helped each other, including working on nuclear weapons.

      While I’m sure many in the far left would be indifferent to the PRC taking Taiwan, perhaps supportive of it, Taiwan itself would rather maintain independence, if only a de facto independence.

      Meanwhile, many of us seem to be okay with gender apartheid in many Muslim-majority countries.

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      By g’ciding natives of taiwan

      I think the PRC was/is far worse at genocide.

      wp:Persecution of Uyghurs in China

      From the 1950s to the 1970s, the Chinese government sponsored a mass migration of Han Chinese to Xinjiang and introduced policies designed to suppress cultural identity and religion in the region.[52] During this period, Uyghur independence organizations emerged with some support from the Soviet Union, with the East Turkestan People’s Party being the largest in 1968.[53] During the 1970s, the Soviets supported the United Revolutionary Front of East Turkestan (URFET) against the Han Chinese.[54]

      Hmmmm, interesting.

      Also, it seems some Muslimphobes in right-wing circles in the West support what China is doing with its Muslims.

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      By hosting american military and being american imperial tool to control south china sea

      The US somewhat abandoned Taiwan in the early 1970s to exploit the Sino-Soviet split.

      It seems some of the PRCs neighbours—India, Vietnam, Taiwan, South Korea, and Japan—are heavily armed.

      btw:

      one of my favorite scenes in the 1976 movie Network:

      Network - The Mao Tse Tung Hour Negotiations

      www.youtube.com/watch?v=CuqvlMxfGA4

      1:55

      IIUC, a depiction between a pro-Moscow Communist, Maoists, or quasi-Maoists, and the network.

      😁 🙂

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      • Tolc@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        a whole lot of wikipedia slop.

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