I’m not a christian but there’s different answers for the trinity other than father, son, and holy spirit?
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FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Pretty much everyone has their own unique blend of beliefs. Like. Most Christian’s have their things they do or don’t believe, even if there’s a shared framework.
Like, ask 10 Christian’s what the hell the trinity is, you’ll get 20 different and usually mutually contradictory answers.
TheReanuKeeves@lemmy.world 1 month ago
FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Oh yes.
One of the reasons most mainstream chriysects consider Mormons to not be Christian’s is because they’re not trinitarians - that god is three beings in one. As an example.
Trinitarianism teaches that they’re all the same being, just with 3 different whosiwhatits that they can’t even agree on what they even are.
Jesus lacks attributes the father and Holy Spirit have, making him less than fully god, and he has attributes that they don’t have, etc.
Which when pressed, most christians will fall into one of the first heresies- partialism. Which was part of the Arian Heresy (that Jesus was created and distinct, not fully god)
The problem is that Jesus couldn’t be the messiah (he did none of the messianic things, and wasn’t of the line of David, and even if Joseph was his father, Joseph was of a line cursed to never produce a king….)
So if Jesus is neither god nor messiah, why worship him?
SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 month ago
The trinity was invented to avoid accusations of polytheism, but as usual with religious apologetics it just adds more confusion.
Jesus, god, and the holy spirit must all be one, otherwise the religion is not monotheistic.
But if they are all one, why ever distinguish between them?
So believers arbitrarily assign different roles to their three different gods while pretending it’s all the same guy. God is immune to logic, and many christians dare not question their own salvation. It is moral and intellectual cowardice, and it is killing us all.
SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 month ago
Yeah. The bible is literally unbelievable, it contradicts itself. Every “believer” has their own headcanon.
TheReanuKeeves@lemmy.world 1 month ago
And you’ll notice that believers will have the vaguest excuses "god works in mysterious ways “we aren’t meant to understand god’s will” “god has a plan”. It’s all saying we don’t know how things work, but at the same time they will tell you they know god is real. To be a true believer you need to throw logic out the window and play by your own rules. It’s why the hardcore ones are so opinionated and self righteous. They deluded themselves into believing they have a divine connection and know things that they’ve never learned.