well if what you’re describing is happening, what else could it be? supernatural law?

I mean to say that just because it’s happening doesn’t mean that it has to be the case. We have a society built off a terrible past, and with it we’ve taken many of it’s atrocious aspects rather than heal them.

furthermore, if as you say the law itself is not followed for certain people, who are we to turn to defend it?

Just as it is now, with those that have exclusive right to the legitimate use of violence. The difference being that the legitimate use of violence is built off transparency, accountability, and democracy. When those do not hold, just as it is now, the legitimate use of violence is lost for revolutionary violence by mandate.

And yes, power attracts the corrupt, but If you don’t think power also inherently corrupts, my thought is you haven’t been paying attention. There are no heroes to be placed to rule. Only future dickheads. imo anyway.

If I can be completely frank I think this is a story places like America or the west more generally tells itself to justify the fact that it’s actively chosen to kill anyone that might be too disruptive to the systems that leave the corrupt in power. From the smaller scale with people like Fred Hampton, to entire democratically elected governments, what I have paid attention to is the ways that the US has, bombed, invaded, orchestrated coups, and waged war against those that would challenge their hegemony.

I don’t mean to say for certain any of those places would get it right, or that they didn’t have faults, but for many to look at where they came from and what they built is quite meaningful. And that the paranoia of the worlds largest military trying sabotage a fledgling project is not shocking.

And yes, I’d like to see the world you want to see as well. I’m just not so hopeful for the whole “leadership for the just” thing cause I’ve seen that movie and it ends in “my country now has a dictator”.

I do find it fitting you refer to it as a movie, and not to demean, but I think it does touch against just how much America tells the story that anyone wanting to make things better is a dictator in disguise while working kill the democracy of nations that would decide against the US.

I don’t know that we much more to the disagreement than this core idea, but I will say I have paid attention to how the US/et al treat anti-capitalist nations, and it has left me unconvinced that it system of immense cruelty that is currently barreling towards ecological collapse is so definitely the only “working” structure of democracy.