Counterpoint: even lighting an LED with a tiny working windmill is pretty neat.
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bitteroldcoot@piefed.social 19 hours ago
You can’t realistically do it. Even is you find a tiny enough generator the amount of power would be so small it would barely light a led in a high wind.
Try turning a bike generator by hand, it takes a lot to generate a little power.
Search on diy wind turbine and start from scratch.
https://www.rwu.edu/news/news-archive/how-build-your-own-wind-turbine
EponymousBosh@feddit.online 15 hours ago
scarabic@lemmy.world 6 hours ago
As long as we’re all clear that that’s the only thing OP can expect, sure. If OP is wondering how much they can knock off their energy bill with this project, the answer is jack shit.
TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 19 hours ago
Agreed. The “impressive RPM” mentioned in the OP won’t matter, because it’s about angular momentum, not specifically angular frequency. You would certainly be putting in more energy than you’d conceivably get out. I’m not confident it couldn’t work with a bike dynamo, but at best that would be a “fun learning experience in your garage” project.
litchralee@sh.itjust.works 18 hours ago
I agree that RPM isn’t the primary quality to assess here, but I think angular momentum doesn’t really matter either. As a quantity, momentum describes a conserved capacity to store kinetic energy. As in, it could tell us how long the fan would stay in motion when the wind stops blowing. But that’s not the objective for a wind turbine, which is supposed to draw energy from the wind to do some work.
Also, I understand angular frequency (the magnitude component of angular velocity, which would also have a phase angle) customarily uses rad/sec but is directly convertible to RPM. Which as we agree, is not the primary quantity for a windmill.
At bottom, none of these quantities are the useful metric for what makes a good wind turbine. And that’s expected, because we have few details about the fan itself: the blade pitch, stall speed, and fan diameter. The only firm detail we can see is the blade count from the picture.
scarabic@lemmy.world 6 hours ago
I believe you’re thinking of momentum in a narrow sense: the energy an already-moving object has that allows it to move for a while before stopping. And it was meant in a more general sense ie the amount of energy being generated and doing work.
TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 17 hours ago
N… No? The wind applies a torque to the wind turbine that gets converted into angular momentum. The angular momentum drives a generator that produces electricity. The obvious point I was making was that the electricity produced doesn’t rely just on ω but also the moment of inertia I.
I feel like I’m being gaslit right now. Like: “Momentum doesn’t really matter in assessing how deadly a collision with this car would be. I feel like that’s expected because we have few details about the car itself.” ???