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Blurntout@lemmy.ca 5 days agoI don’t discredit individuals actions as the primary market force that drives industry what you seem to miss is it’s not local governments I’m talking about…
Giving examples seems to miss the forest for the trees here because you’re entrenched in your opinion and it has merit. Yes industrial agriculture,methane, people don’t realize 99% of 7 billion is basically 7 billion hungry breathing farting eating what’s cheap and taking the easy way out
But consider the ai boom that is driving markets mad causing supply shortages yada yada primary point isn’t so much that it’s the worst offender on the green house gas emissions list but the fact that 99% of people didn’t fucking ask for it lol but it’s happening anyway and effecting the world that’s the kind of market / political influence we’re talking about
BlameThePeacock@lemmy.ca 4 days ago
Based on the last time I did the math a few months ago, and the projections of AI datacenter builds, they’re expected to reach maybe 0.5% of total global energy use by 2030. HALF OF A PERCENT.
I don’t know how even spreading that out matters at all. It’s simply not a concern we should be focusing on until we solve things like meat production (15% of global energy use), transportation (something like 20% of global use), and more efficiency on systems like home and building heating (another 20-25%).
Blurntout@lemmy.ca 4 days ago
Sorry blame I can’t engage further I’m not arguing against anything you raise I’m only expressing the point that billionaires influence drives these (types of decisions) pick an industry they have a lobbying budget and misinformation campaign deployed like I understand that you’re talking concrete numbers regarding emissions in given industry but ignoring the movers and shakers at the big decision tables when you talk about market forces that incentivize change or business as usual… you’re right we all need to change but refusing to acknowledge the existence of billionaires is an issue because I pick a lousy example? 😬
Also half a percent of global energy use for something 99% of people didn’t push to exist is more significant than you give it credit for
BlameThePeacock@lemmy.ca 4 days ago
A billion people in the world are vegetarians, and yet 15% of the world’s energy is going to Meat production. They didn’t ask for meat production but there it is.
You also misunderstand what “push to exist” really boils down to. AI is being used by companies because it saves them money, people are buying the products from these companies. They could choose more expensive options that do not use AI, but they are not actually doing that.
By that same logic, people aren’t responsible for the transportation and energy use for any industry, but without customers those industries would not exist and therefore their energy use wouldn’t happen.
That’s why it’s individual responsibility that is causing this disaster, and people putting their head in the sand and blaming billionaires does not help that.