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• DuncanTheDrunk@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

  They obviously can’t engage, that could be a confrontation.

  BTW I’m with you that any system can be abused, and it’s that abuse that is the true issue. However capitalism does seem to encourage greed and the consolidation of resources, which has to be actively regulated. It feels like it’s a losing battle as those who accumulate power will try to sidestep or remove any obstacles that prevent them from gaining more power.

  I feel like we’re currently seeing some particularly egregious examples currently and I welcome the discussion of other systems because open and unbiased discussion could hopefully lead us somewhere better.

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  • Abyssian@lemmy.world ⁨54⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

    Agreed, the whole reason I started out saying “The people who bitch communism or capitalism” is because it goes for any ideology.

    For decades there’s been a push in the US to make people feel like any political ideology other than the one we exist under is evil, especially the dreaded “socialism” and “communism.” They point out many people have died living under those systems and many of those governments have failed and try to make us feel like those systems are destined to fail and not worth considering.

    But for the most part it seems that the examples they like to use most aren’t examples of anything going wrong due to the ideologies, but entirely because people corrupted and warped and abused them for their own benefit.

    It’s the difference between economic theory/ideology and political reality. It wasn’t the ideology of “communism” or “socialism” that led to death and downfall, it was the political reality than instead of common ownership among all members of society, those at the top and in control of those nations lived as those at the top of our own do. There was never actually common ownership in reality, only on paper.

    If you give someone control of anything with the goal of them managing distribution of it fairly among everyone as needed, that gives them loads of ways to corrupt it for personal gain. Adding in more people and overseers doesn’t help, because loads of humans are super easy to corrupt.

    Economic theories and ideologies have never been the problem. The problem is always the political reality that loads of humans are kind of shit, and the more power and control over anything any human or group of humans has the more likely they become to use that for personal gain.

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  • Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml ⁨41⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

    Lol

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• Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Do I seem bothered? I’d say Indifferent at best.

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  • Abyssian@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

    Ahh, words are tough for you. If you can’t understand one simple English sentence than it makes sense for you to not bother reading lots of words.

    In the sentence “I’m sorry that someone taking the time to type out a thoughtful response is such a bother for you” the word “bother” is being used as a noun. The meaning of the sentence was that you found my long comment to be a thing that would require effort or work to read. It was a sarcastic fake apology making fun of you for being on a mainly text based social discussion platform and considering just a few paragraphs of text something that would take you too much effort for you to bother reading them.

    For it to mean you were bothered as in annoyed, as you thought, we would be using “bother” as a verb.

    Maybe take some classes? Learning is good, yo. Reading is fundamental.

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    • Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

      K

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      • Abyssian@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

        Don’t worry, scrote! There’re plenty of 'tards out there living really kick-ass lives. My first wife was 'tarded: She’s a pilot now.

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