Comment on take their money and arrest those responsible
TheOubliette@lemmy.ml 3 weeks agoMy comment directly replied to what you said. I numbered the bullet points, literally the first thing I wrote.
Comment on take their money and arrest those responsible
TheOubliette@lemmy.ml 3 weeks agoMy comment directly replied to what you said. I numbered the bullet points, literally the first thing I wrote.
SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world 3 weeks ago
But you’re defending consumer’s choices to destroy the environment so you aren’t replying to what I said you’re replying to what you want me to say.
TheOubliette@lemmy.ml 3 weeks ago
Your question was, “Who buys and burns most of the fuel they create and why?” and I answered it and explained how it works. It’s mostly industry The answer is absolutely not simply “consumer choice”, which is quite clear if you review my simple 2-point list.
Here I’ll write it again:
The cause of this is not individual consumer choices, it is capitalism - it seeks to increase capital and nothing else. Capital does not care about the emissions of growing fruit in Central America, packaging in Thailand, and selling in Germany. It cares that you buy the fruit cup for more than they spent on it. And to make that happen, capital had to force wages and production to be depressed and scattered across the globe. And it’s not going to waste money on making the processes themselves independent of fossil fuels so long as fossil fuel prices are low enough - and it keeps them low by constantly seeking more extraction for profit.
SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world 3 weeks ago
Industry makes it for consumers to consumer.
Consumer choice doesn’t enter the equation consumers consuming does.
TheOubliette@lemmy.ml 3 weeks ago
Industry makes it under the expectation to turn a profit. Overproduction is common and so is wasteful or pointless production. It doesn’t even need to be “consumed” so long as they get paid. The US military constantly blows up “leftover” materials to ensure they get the same budget next year, for example. And most sales are between industries. How efficiently are those industries using all their purchases? Have you ever worked in a restaurant?
If consumer choice doesn’t enter the equation then you’ve proved my point. Focus should be on the system itself that forces emissions as part of core economic activity.