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• trxxruraxvr@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  I know it goes against the circlejerk in some progressive communities, but most rich conservative media owners did not get to their position by lacking brainpower, their shortcomings tend to be more in the morals and/or empathy regions.

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  • FishFace@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    I just think generally this kind of “propaganda” is produced because it reflects a well-entrenched view people genuinely hold. It’s like asserting that minstrel shows were produced as propaganda to keep black people subjugated by making people think black people are inferior. I think it’s much simpler than that - the people who commissioned such things were racist, so they made shows which depicted black people poorly. That had the effect of perpetuating racism, but it’s a stretch to say the perpetuation of racism was the motivation, rather than the enactment of racism.

    Same here, as I see it. The people who make such things are misogynists who believe in misogynist practices, so they make films which reflect those practices. I don’t see where there’s evidence for a conscious choice to do more than that.

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    • trxxruraxvr@lemmy.world ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I’m not sure that’s a fair comparison. As far as I know minstrel shows were mostly small groups making the money they got from their performance, but movies like the one in this post are funded by multi-million dollar media companies that have a large say in what kind of movies will be made.

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      • FishFace@piefed.social ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        I really had in mind minstrel shows on in the 20th century on TV. But if you prefer, I think it still applies to most situations which seem to be entrenching any view, whether that view is hateful or indeed positive. We don’t think of someone making a movie whose central message is about the virtue of kindness as being “propaganda” - it’s just people putting their own values into a story. So too if the central message is negative.

        If you want to infer a more purposeful, self-conscious motivation, you need more to go on.

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