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Tweak@feddit.uk ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

• huf@hexbear.net ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  so what is the misrepresentation? the bits you quoted show exactly how this fucker is lying through his teeth.

  this is ridiculous:

  We very much welcome the MoU reached in June between the US and Iran and the US condemns in the strongest terms the unjustified attacks by Iran since then on shipping and indeed on our Gulf partners.

  the US and israel started this shit, they kept hitting iran while the supposed MoU was in effect, what the fuck is this fascist piece of shit talking about unjustified attacks by iran for?

  this is absurd too, a deliberate falsification of history:

  as they defend themselves against Russia’s unprovoked and premeditated aggression.

  is there some part that’s missing where he condemns the US and israel for their genocidal aggression? no? is the UK gonna stop the US from using its bases to bomb iran? so what’s the misrepresentation?

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  • Malyca@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I’m with you context doesn’t help here

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• geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Declassified UK, now known as “a user”

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  • Tweak@feddit.uk ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    You’re the user, but yes Declassified UK is the one who misrepresented the whole thing. Per my edit above.

    At least their post included a link to the speech, so readers could decide for themselves.

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• lmdnw@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  How so?

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  • Tweak@feddit.uk ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Provided an edit, wasn’t quick enough lol

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    • lmdnw@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I appreciate the edit, but I’m still unclear on how the post is cherry-picking to make its point. My reading of the original post is that it acknowledged statements made in support of the MoU with Iran and in support of Ukraine, but took issue with what wasn’t mentioned or discussed in the speech (i.e., mentioning the MoU with Iran without mentioning the US and Israel’s illegal war against Iran, and mentioning Russian aggression toward Ukraine without applying those same principles to Israel’s illegal occupation of Palestinian land).

      I think the original post’s intent was to highlight how this new PM isn’t really doing anything new when it comes to pushing back on the reliance on ‘realpolitik’ as a defense for not calling out bad actions by allies. Smacks a bit of hypocrisy to me too.

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      • Tweak@feddit.uk ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I think the main thing to take home from this is that it’s just a generic speech given to a southeast Asian trade group, it’s not really something that highlights policy or action. The post is reading too much into it, when the point of the speech was international relations with countries in a completely different region of the world.

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    • geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Your edit literally proves the point of what DeclassifiedUK said?

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      • Tweak@feddit.uk ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        My edit points out that the point of the speech was to assure international relations with southeast Asian countries, you’re reading far too much into it if you’re focusing on Iran, Israel, Palestine, Ukraine or Russia.

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