Comment on UK allocates £250m for policing in Jewish communities

geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

• flamingos@feddit.uk ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  The government has had a scheme since 2016 to fund security for places of worship and in October they added an extra £10 million funding for Muslim community centres, bringing it up to £40 million a year.

  Google is your friend and this whole ‘Jews are the special minority’ shtick you push is getting old.

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  • Aria@lemmygrad.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    But 10 is less than 250, isn’t it? By geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml’s figure, that’s £2.50 per Muslim vs £833.33 per Jew. From just the numbers, it does seem like Jews are a higher priority.

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  • geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    The announcement follows an increase in antisemitic hate crimes, including the stabbing of two Jewish men in Golders Green, north London, in April and an arson attack at a former synagogue in Whitechapel, central London, in May.

    **There was a third guy stabbed left out of the “antisemitic stabbing”.**Guess his faith.

    There’s 4 million Muslims in the UK and 300.000 Jews. But somehow Jews are getting much more funding despite being in much less danger.

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    • flamingos@feddit.uk ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      There was a third guy stabbed which is conveniently left out of the “antisemitic stabbing”. Guess his faith.

      The stabbing of the two Jewish men in Golders Green was clearly driven by antisemitism, though. He tried to stab a Muslim friend before travelling 8 miles without stabbing anyone to a famously Jewish part of London and stabbing two visibility Jewish men. The fact he tried to stab someone who is a Muslim doesn’t mean the other attacks weren’t driven by antisemitism.

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      • geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        The stabbing was done by a man who was very clearly mentally ill and was just released from a mental institution.

        He tried to stab a Muslim friend

        He literally stabbed the guy. What do you mean “tried to”?

        before travelling 8 miles without stabbing anyone to a famously Jewish part of London and stabbing two visibility Jewish men.

        8 whole miles? Is real life like GTA where your wanted level disappears if you travel 8 miles and everyone forgets about your crimes if you don’t get caught?

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  • Bassman27@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    So this money is shared between faith groups? People of Jewish faith get £250mil for themselves and I imagine more over the next few years.

    They do indeed sound like the ‘special’ minority. Maybe it’s all the government lobbying (meddling) Isreal does to get them special treatment.

    You can’t ignore the fact Muslims always have especially more recently been at the receiving end of a lot of unjustified hate. Where is their additional hundreds of millions in funding?

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    • flamingos@feddit.uk ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      No, the £40 million is for Muslim community centres, it’s just part of a larger scheme. I don’t know how you got to that reading.

      They do indeed sound like the ‘special’ minority. Maybe it’s all the government lobbying (meddling) Isreal does to get them special treatment.

      You understand that this is a deeply fucked up thing to say, right? There has been a genuine rise in antisemitic hate crime in the UK and the idea that the governments actions to address that must be because of Israel not only makes Israel look good, it unjustly links British Jews to Israel.

      You can’t ignore the fact Muslims always have especially more recently been at the receiving end of a lot of unjustified hate. Where is their additional hundreds of millions in funding?

      I agree that the government isn’t doing anywhere near enough to protect Muslims, but that isn’t the question I was responding to. It was about funding for Mosque security with the implication that it was 0, which it’s not.

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      • Bassman27@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        You literally said to fund places of worship. I didn’t realise that was a Muslim exclusive term.

        Look at the amount of funding that goes to political parties coming from Isreal not just in the Uk but globally. How was this cash injection affected policy? I’d argue looking at the UK and US that the effect is huge. If it wasn’t a thing there wouldn’t have been a debate about it in parliament last month.

        If even you can admit they’re not doing enough to support a faith who have been the target of hate crimes since the early 2000s you can’t really be defensive when someone calls you out on the funding discrepancy.

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