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matt1126@feddit.uk ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

I’m curious what you consider the legal routes for entry are for asylum seekers and refugees?

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Flax_vert@feddit.uk ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
Most asylum seekers have entered the UK legally, it’s just that a change of circumstances means they cannot return home. There are also some people who may stow away or use a forged passport to get on a plane to the UK from an unsafe country. Probably not as sound, but still legitimate.

Also, resettlement schemes, if any are held. But if they aren’t held, this doesn’t automatically entitle people to break in illegally. They happen on our terms.

The issue is whenever you come here from a safe country. That’s not fleeing war. That’s just acting entitled and showing disregard for our nation. The type of person who does this is likely to show disregard in other ways, too.

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- matt1126@feddit.uk ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  So the legal routes are:
  
  Be a regular migrant and then while you are in the UK become an asylum seeker and seek to change your visa
  
  Stow away or use a forged passport (how is this remotely a legal route?)
  
  Be lucky and hope a resettlement scheme exist, which there are two that I can find, one for Hong Kong and another for Ukraine
  
  The issue is whenever you come here from a safe country. That is not fleeing war.
  
  Apart from that there is no legal obligation on refugees to stop in the first safe country, this also would mean we should not have accepted any Ukrainian refugees, they must have travelled through Poland and other safe countries to get here so by your definition they are now a problem as they are no longer fleeing war.
  
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  - Flax_vert@feddit.uk ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
    
    Apart from that there is no legal obligation on refugees to stop in the first safe country,
    
    Yeah, and that’s my point. That whole law is stupid and needs to be repealed.
    
    this also would mean we should not have accepted any Ukrainian refugees,
    
    We accepted them via a resettlement scheme. If there wasn’t a resettlement scheme, then they shouldn’t have come here.
    
    Resettlement schemes exist generally to fulfill responsibilities (such as with Hong Kong) or to take a load off of our neighbours (such as Ukraine, or ones that happened with Syrians ages ago in the EU days)
    
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