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• Steve@communick.news ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  All of that is true.
  None if it refutes anything I’m saying.

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  • IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    the things I mentioned have no metabolism, don’t absorb nutrients, and don’t excrete.

    by your definition they are dead.

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  • IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    the things I mentioned have no metabolism, don’t absorb nutrients, and don’t excrete.

    by your definition they are dead.

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    • Steve@communick.news ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Right. So?

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      • IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        which takes in nutrients, processes them to support itself, and expells waste products.

        Is fire alive? it takes in nutrients (Hydro carbons+oxygens), reacts them to support itself, and expells waste products (CO2+water), in fact, that’s the same input and output as many organisms. Is fire a living organisms?

        you missed growth (also fire)

        and reproduction (also fire, but also problematic as it means a single rabbit isn’t alive but a couple are)

        BTW, not an appeal to authority, just a notice that I might know what I’m talking about. I have a PhD in biology.

        there are more interesting candidates for life definition, Dawkins considered that maybe the question is a waste of time and what matters is the genetic unit, “living things” are just things that spread genetic material.

        Others theories are based on chaos theory, thermodynamic cascades,matter/energy waves…

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