Comment on Record 128 people cross Channel in one small boat
Flax_vert@feddit.uk 3 days agoIn my view there is nothing so inherently great about Britain
There is, we’ve got a great welfare system and healthcare system, lack of corruption, good opportunities and high levels of tolerance. We are a great country.
These are clearly desperate people… it is worth paying tens of thousands of pounds to get into it on a death dinghy.
This is just outright illogical and doesn’t make a lick of sense. There in some cases is less risk and definitely more reward to taking a dinghy than there is to speeding, drunk driving, driving without a seatbelt, cycling without a helmet, etc. People do that all of the time. Whenever someone causes an accident by speeding, do we apply the same logic? “Your honour, he was clearly desperate. Nobody would risk their life like that for no reason”. Of course not. I’m not singling out countries for any reason, but in India it’s normal for people to just sit on top of trains. I’ve seen videos in other countries where if the bus is full, people just hang off. People scale buildings. Even here in the UK people put their lives at great risk building bonfires every year by scaling them without any safety equipment. People definitely do risky things all of the time, often for fun or to save minutes of time.
The dinghies are coming from france. It’s a safe country. There’s no way this is done out of desperation at all. Any desperation that is there isn’t enough to warrant breaking the law.
DakRalter@thelemmy.club 3 days ago
Lack of corruption! Have you been living under a rock?
Okay, how about this. You and your mates are on holiday in Australia. You see on the news that zomg! Britain has been taken over by the Shakiras! It’s now under Shakira law!!!
You try to get a flight home, but the flight terminates in France. The shakiras threaten to kill or imprison anyone who tries to get into Britain.
Your mate Barry pulls you aside and tells you a bunch of them are going to get on a dinghy tonight to Ireland. Ireland has already said no more refugees, but he knows a way to smuggle you in. You’ve got some cousins there, you can stay with them and maybe find a job.
You’ve got the choice. Stay in France where you don’t know anyone and can’t speak the language.
Or take a risk and get the dinghy to Ireland where you can speak the language and have family and have a greater chance at getting a job.
Would you stay in France because it’s “safe” and condemn any Brits trying to make it to their family in Ireland? Would you rat out your mate Barry because he must be a bad person for wanting to live somewhere he can adjust to more easily? For wanting to have family or friends to support him?
Flax_vert@feddit.uk 3 days ago
I’m a British citizen, and British Citizens have right of abode in Ireland. So I’ll wait until there’s an opportunity to take a legitimate boat or aeroplane to Ireland.
DakRalter@thelemmy.club 2 days ago
I can’t tell if you lack the ability to infer things or you’re just being deliberately disingenuous. Obviously in this fictional scenario, with mainland GB taken over by a hostile regime, the CTA will be suspended. And given the population disparity between the island of Ireland and mainland GB, it won’t be long before the number of refugees exceeds what Ireland/NI can accept. So no, you’re not going to get a legitimate way in anytime soon.
So the question again is, would you rat out your mate Barry because he’s, according to your logic, a bad person?
Would you happily live in a refugee camp in France indefinitely, when you have the chance to sneak into Ireland to live in a house with family, and you can speak the language?
Flax_vert@feddit.uk 2 days ago
I’m still an EU citizen, so I’ll enter via a legal route when possible.