But that would only be a problem if OP wanted to sell the result.
Only using the stuff himself, as he stated, should be totally fine.
And the point is exactly, that doesn’t steal (at least if you for a moment don’t regard based on what LLMs are trained…), but use something different instead.
Nope, incorrect. - Personal Use ≠ Fair Use: While some jurisdictions have “fair use” or “fair dealing” exceptions (e.g., for criticism, education, or parody), personal use alone does not automatically qualify as fair use!
It is like me taking your bike, and using it for my own transportation
No, OPs example is not.
Rather it’s like you having seen me riding a bike and based on that building a two-wheeled device behaving in a similar way for yourself.
Good luck, you will find enlightenment I’m sure. I have been involved in IP litigation for about 30 years in industry, and a lot of colleagues argued the way you guys are doing, it didn’t end well ;-)
To further stretch that metaphor, it’s like I manufacture bikes, and you copy one of my designs to build a single unit for yourself.
Also, I imagine it would be hard to discover and then prove that the app someone is using on their own machine is a clone of yours.
Also also, the validity of software patents heavily depends on your jurisdiction.
Also also also, there’s a lot of word processors and photo editors out there. The usecase of an app would have to be incredibly specific to even try and prove a clone is infringing on anything. If it’s a library - reinplementing a function in your own (or a LLM’s) code is unlikely to be a problem.
I don’t trust current LLMs to do this well, or in an affordable way, but if you somehow manage it, I don’t think the original manufacturer would have an easy time sueing you.
Multiplexer@discuss.tchncs.de 2 weeks ago
But that would only be a problem if OP wanted to sell the result.
Only using the stuff himself, as he stated, should be totally fine.
And the point is exactly, that doesn’t steal (at least if you for a moment don’t regard based on what LLMs are trained…), but use something different instead.
notsosure@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Nope, incorrect. - Personal Use ≠ Fair Use: While some jurisdictions have “fair use” or “fair dealing” exceptions (e.g., for criticism, education, or parody), personal use alone does not automatically qualify as fair use!
Multiplexer@discuss.tchncs.de 2 weeks ago
No, OPs example is not.
Rather it’s like you having seen me riding a bike and based on that building a two-wheeled device behaving in a similar way for yourself.
notsosure@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Good luck, you will find enlightenment I’m sure. I have been involved in IP litigation for about 30 years in industry, and a lot of colleagues argued the way you guys are doing, it didn’t end well ;-)
VeganCheesecake@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
To further stretch that metaphor, it’s like I manufacture bikes, and you copy one of my designs to build a single unit for yourself.
Also, I imagine it would be hard to discover and then prove that the app someone is using on their own machine is a clone of yours.
Also also, the validity of software patents heavily depends on your jurisdiction.
Also also also, there’s a lot of word processors and photo editors out there. The usecase of an app would have to be incredibly specific to even try and prove a clone is infringing on anything. If it’s a library - reinplementing a function in your own (or a LLM’s) code is unlikely to be a problem.
I don’t trust current LLMs to do this well, or in an affordable way, but if you somehow manage it, I don’t think the original manufacturer would have an easy time sueing you.
notsosure@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
I fully agree with all your points. IP and patent infringement is intriguing and sometimes dangerous territory.