Comment on How would you evaluate having more pay vs an easier job?
GreenBeard@lemmy.ca 1 day ago
Define “easier” because that’s not a well defined term. Also, people do in fact aspire to do more with their life than watch Netflix in their down time, but Netflix never has scheduling conflicts or other responsibilities. The 24/7/365 work culture we all seem to be building towards, isn’t conducive to things like community organizing and routine social interaction outside our cloistered bubbles of employment. Also, define “more pay.” Are we talking imaginary “line-go-up” math, or are we actually talking about increasing people’s purchasing power relative to cost of living? Please, try to remember, we’re living in a shell game where actual value of goods and services relative to effort is so deeply obfuscated actually requires a Ph.D in Bullshit… I’m sorry “Economics” to grasp half of it.
vrek@programming.dev 1 day ago
Ok, Netflix example was poor. I meant I was not talking about making your job basically just hanging out. You will still need to do some work. I’m not saying making you work 365/24/7. Easier basically meant removing the parts which cause you extra effort or extra pain. Like I saw a grocery story had little lifts for stuff so if you were putting stuff on the third shelf the lift would be at same height, no need to bend down and lift, just kind of pick up rotate and place on shelf. That will reduce a lot of backpain in people who work those jobs, the job is still required but is easier.
I defined more pay in my original post as 2k-6k usd. As in your gross pay to be exact. So take the even at 4k and you get an extra $77 per week.
Basically it’s like this, we can give you a say 4k raise today or we’ll remove the parts of your job that are a pain. Not saying globally, I’m saying you or maybe a team and that’s it.
GreenBeard@lemmy.ca 23 hours ago
Honestly, better training would help more with the back pain. The physical exertion is not the problem, it’s the lifting form. A job that saves you time and money at the gym is not a bad thing. I don’t understand why employers think people want a frictionless work environment. Friction builds capacity and competence.
If it’s a matter of time and efficiency, sure do that, but don’t kid yourself that’s for your productivity metrics, not the employee’s. If it’s a matter of safety, then absolutely address that, but you’re doing it as much for the sake of the company in terms of lost man hours and legal liability.
If you’re trying to raise morale, then people need compensation. That’s the whole deal, I give you my time, effort, and experience and you give me something of equivalent value, monetary or otherwise. You can give them pay, you can give them insurance, you can offer professional development or financial planning services I don’t know, but give them something.
Yes, people tend to prefer to work for a well run company that is taking care of its side of the deal, and providing the tools to do the job you’re paying for. It suggests the company has some future and foresight, but business competence is table stakes, it’s the baseline they should be able to expect.