Lmfao, are you fucking kidding?
Do you not remember the Iraq and Afghanistan wars? The constant bombing of the middle east and the trillions of dollars wasted over decades?
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Aatube@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 days agoI think Bush was bad but a lot of the bad stuff he did was somewhat reversible (ICE existed , plus it’s not his fault that ICE is now used as a papers-please. There was PATRIOT but we reversed it so it’s actually a great example of what I mean.) and relatively short-term. Reagan, meanwhile, made a giant hole in our infrastructure that is still ingrained within everything today.
valar@lemmy.ca 1 day ago
The patriot act was reversed?
Aatube@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 hours ago
technically it wasn’t extended and thus all of its provisions are no longer in effect
MnemonicBump@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 day ago
Bt ICE was literally created by the Bush admin align with the rest of the DHS, and the Patriot Act wasn’t reversed so much as disseminated into earmarks attached to various spending bills so it’s actually even harder to get those freedoms back. Even our current immigration system is descended from Bush era policy, including the fucking wall.
Aatube@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 hours ago
ICE wasn’t created, only transferred and renamed from the Immigration and Naturalization Service from the Treasury. There had to be an agency enforcing the era where we used a fucking ocean instead of the fucking wall. (There was a prosperous time of much freer immigration in between but my point is of course it was always a thing.) Finally, of course, ICE never and never intended to barge into cities and homes under the Bush like Trump did.
Could you source what you said about the PATRIOT Act’s sunset provisions?
MnemonicBump@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 hours ago
INS was basically an entire different agency with an entirely different directive. That was also a time when our immigration system was bifricated. So there were, in fact, several agencies, who all had a specialized directive. DHS changed all of that. Not to mention the budget increases.
I grew up 200 feet from a HUGE Border Patrol station in southern California, and about half a mile from the Mexican border. Just because they weren’t coming into the city centers and making big show about it doesn’t mean that they were terrorizing people all over border regions for a loooong time. Murder, rape, racketeering, etc have all been extremely common, and they pretty frequently destroy water and food stashes that good samaritans have left for folks, which has led to uncountable deaths.
Source it? No. I’m not going to show you the last 20 years of federal legislation that removes your freedoms systematically. My point was that we are not in a better place now than we were then, and the place where we are now has everything to do with where we were then