Comment on Would it be dystopian if we don't even own our right to live anymore?
myrmidex@belgae.social 6 hours ago
If we’ve learned anything in these last decades, it’s that rights are easily taken away. Not sure whether can be called dystopian exactly, it’s hard to see where the line is. Some argue we’ve arrived at dystopia already.
cheese_greater@lemmy.world 6 hours ago
Thats not even the scariest part.
The scary reality is, in many places, its proving these rights never even existed at all or only nominally in a way that foreseeably could not withstand obvious threats.
Roe v. Wade is a classic example of this. It wasnt actually an established right, it was litigated in a specific way that lead to it never being enshrined, it was little more than a stopgap, there has never been an actual right to abortion and freedom from federal+state charges where the government changes their tune on whether they want to be able to control and punish women they dont like or want to suffer.
myrmidex@belgae.social 5 hours ago
When do you reckon a right truly exists?
When it’s been enshrined into law? I reckon it would take just as much (or little) effort to get it back out.
cheese_greater@lemmy.world 4 hours ago
Until its been litigated and the State loses miserably and has to redo their criminal system so its not a crime that can be pursued or if theres some fucked up civil bounty system like that popped up in the US it needs to bankrupt whoever is involved and preferably sanction them irreparably in some way that lays down the law, whatever right or entitlement doesnt mean shit.
These things need to be made independant, beyond arms reach, and there needs to be civil liabillity for anyone (including the leaders and elite) that is sufficiently devastating that they know to stop touching the hot stove. The result on their victims is devastsring if they are successful so the impact needs to devastate them and their continued abillity to fuck around