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Grail@multiverse.soulism.net 22 hours ago
Today I heard that they have to design slaughterhouses with twists and turns so the cows can’t see what’s happening up ahead while they wait in line. Because if the cows can see the slaughtering being done to the cows ahead, they panic. Because,
COWS DON’T WANT TO DIE
I don’t know if this fact is true, but I’ve heard a lot of other facts like it that turned Me vegan. And uh, yeah, meme. Humanity actually needs to quit eating meat or humanity is going extinct. They’re chopping down the rainforests to grow soybeans, and 80% of the soy we grow is fed to livestock. If we didn’t eat milk, eggs, and dairy, then we could just eat the soy ourselves and skip all the inefficiencies of animal metabolism. Humanity is doomed if it can’t reduce meat consumption. The EAT-Lancet report recommended halving human meat consumption globally, in order to save the planet and humanity.
You should react to the fact that cows don’t want to die by going vegan. The fact that people don’t, is dooming humanity.
Forester@pawb.social 21 hours ago
While nothing you have said is incorrect, your tone and messaging is more likely to drive people to the opposite position.
Grail@multiverse.soulism.net 21 hours ago
I disagree. I think when people encounter extremist speech, they have an initial strong reaction, but then the idea sticks in their head and becomes normalised. Over time, that reaction subsides. The overton window shifts. Those Nazis in the whitehouse have been shifting the overton window right for more than a decade. At first, the public had an initial strong reaction. But then their fascist ideas stuck in their heads and became normalised. And now look where we are! The mainstream left has been pushing moderates like Joe Biden, who don’t provoke any initial strong reactions, but they don’t inspire people either. Their ideas don’t stick in people’s heads. We need more extremists in left wing politics, and we need more extreme leftist messaging.
COWS DON’T WANT TO DIE
We need to keep yelling it until it becomes normalised, and then people will take it seriously. Most people are conformists and will react to anything they haven’t heard before by shutting down. It’s actually kind of useful, evolutionarily, to be a little bit of a conformist, because it helps you fit in and avoid in-group conflict. It lets people work together more easily. But we also need radicals who are willing to shift the normal in a positive direction. And once radical ideas become normalised, only then do most people take the ideas seriously and evaluate the evidence.
Also I did go and research the claim, and it’s true. Temple Grandin designed modern slaughterhouses with semicircular arcs for the cows to walk down, which match their natural herding behaviour. The serpentine passages minimise visual distractions which spook cows, and then lead to a ramp which takes them to the stunning area. The ramp keeps them from being able to see what’s going on until they’re stunned. And then a human knocks them unconscious with a bolt to the brain and slits their throat.
Forester@pawb.social 21 hours ago
Nothing wants to die. Not even suicidal people. ( Ask anyone who survived an attempt ) Hyperventilating about your messaging isn’t going to make it more convincing.
Grail@multiverse.soulism.net 20 hours ago
Then killing is bad
grrgyle@slrpnk.net 20 hours ago
What tone? I’m not even vegan, but like you said, they’re just saying all true things. Didn’t denigrate meat eaters as people once except to point out our cognitive dissonance, which I think any reasonable person can cop to.
Imho any friction felt in tone or messaging is coming from within (our own minds, about our discomfort with our choices).