There is no goalpost to move. You want to blame pollution on US suburbanites as a way to discredit the environmenal impact of AI datacenters. I pointed out you are full of shit. You have no rebuttal.
I said that US citizens create more pollution and everyone should do their part. This is a fucking given.
Meanwhile 70%+ of pollution comes from industry. You inability to see the bigger picture is stunning to say the least.
BlameThePeacock@lemmy.ca 5 days ago
I’m not full of shit. Suburbanites have been blasting carbon into the atmosphere for a century at a rate the AI datacenters could only dream of. You’ve given no evidence to prove otherwise while I backed up my numbers.
Industry exists so that humans can consume. There is no industry on the planet who’s production (and energy use/pollution) can’t be directly or indirectly attributed to a human customer.
You buy the electricity that’s generated from the natural gas power plant. The pollution to produce and burn that is yours. Your car is made of metals that produced pollution and used energy (which also produced pollution) to extract and refine. That pollution is yours. The energy that went into rendering Toy Story 5, and building the movie theater, and growing the popcorn. That’s all yours.
Stop blaming industry, industry doesn’t exist unless people buy their products. You make the choices with your wallet.
Doomsider@lemmy.world 5 days ago
Yes you are. You are an apologist for corporations. Pathetic. You have not disproven one thing I have said.
Industry wastes and produces products we don’t need. Take cooking pots and the forever chemicals fiasco. Corporations developed cheaper disposable cookware and in doing so poisoned every single human on the planet. Was this suburbanites fault? Fuck no. Corporations drove the adoption not the other way around to make MORE Money.
yesmagazine.org/…/climate-change-fossil-fuel-indu…
bbc.com/…/20220504-why-the-wrong-people-are-blame…
Take recycling plastic for our second example. Companies fucking knew recycling plastic was not feasible but the created an entire campaign around it to blame the consumer.
npr.org/…/how-big-oil-misled-the-public-into-beli…
You are acting so fucking ignorant it isn’t funny.
BlameThePeacock@lemmy.ca 5 days ago
You literally just admitted that people got tricked by a company through propaganda to buy their products, while people knew and said there was a problem, ignored those people, and bought the products anyways. Then blamed the company.
It must be so easy to live your life in such ignorance. You never have to think hard about anything, just believe the marketing campaigns and ignore everything else.
This is exactly the same situation. You’re being lied to about AI, there is literally massive amounts of money flowing into anti-AI marketing right now, and instead of asking why anyone would spend money on that, you just accept it as truth because it doesn’t come from a company.
Doomsider@lemmy.world 5 days ago
I am sorry, I didn’t understand your comprehension of the situation is this bad. The public didn’t know, the corporations did in regards to forever chemicals. The corporations covered it up and they are now fighting it numerous lawsuits in the courts. Please do try to catch up.
ucsf.edu/…/makers-pfas-forever-chemicals-covered-…
Next up global warming. Did you know the petroleum scientists back in the 50s knew global warming was a real? The corporations then paid for the research to prove it. They covered this up and paid heavily into anti-climate change propaganda. This is why there is a climate change debate when it was already proven true by the companies doing the fucking polluting.
…georgetown.edu/…/defense-denial-and-disinformati…
But please tell me I am soooo ignorant. What a joke.
You want to blame the individual which is literally propaganda paid for by corporations to absolve them of their crimes. Acting like a bootlicking little bitch isn’t as cool as you think it is.
You think pointing out that AI sucks is part of some giant fucking conspiracy!? What in the literal fuck are you on. Objectively there are a lot of things to not like about what corporations are doing with AI.