Lincoln himself did not personally own slaves, but he was absolutely complicit as a President in maintaining the institution of slavery.
This is maybe the most absolutely deranged thing I have ever read.
That’s called Shifting the Goalpost.
internet-delenda-est yeah obviously I was a bit sloppy in my initial response. Wow. Absolutely shocking. This isn’t fucking debate club.
Shown that reason doesn’t apply.
Actually you haven’t. Under Lincoln’s presidency, the Union went on to nominally outlaw slavery — except in cas es of crime. The 13th Amendment has been used to keep penal slavery illegal. Lincoln himself did not personally own slaves, but he was absolutely complicit as a President in maintaining the institution of slavery.
I’m sure that’s also not the reason you don’t like it.
The reason I don’t like the monuments is because I am an outspoken anarchist and AmeriKKKa is a shining beacon on a hill for everything I despise about the world.
Lincoln himself did not personally own slaves, but he was absolutely complicit as a President in maintaining the institution of slavery.
This is maybe the most absolutely deranged thing I have ever read.
Lincoln tricked racist northerners into dying in a war against the most heinous form of slavery the world has ever seen, and he still doesn’t pass your purity test. Fucking wild.
Lincoln tricked racist northerners into dying in a war against the most heinous form of slavery the world has ever seen
… to save a slave nation built on white supremacy and settler colonialism, which still enslaves Black people within its borders thanks to the 13th Amendment passed during his administration, because the slave nation was so fucking vile and unstable that even white supremacists had to fight against chattel slavery to keep their settler colonial empire from detonating itself.
Like this is literally how deep AmeriKKKan racism goes, that even the “white moderates” are all racist bastards. This is what happens when one makes white supremacy the foundation of an entire society: to the surprise of no one but you and every other settler apparently, you end up with a nation of white supremacists. Rejecting AmeriKKKa in all its hideous permutations (applies to KKKanada too) is step zero in any serious solution for ending white supremacy. Otherwise, it’s a continuation of white supremacy under different management.
and he still doesn’t pass your purity test.
Yeah actually, the only purity test an AmeriKKKan President can ever pass is that he purely deserves to burn in Hell.
Steve@communick.news 3 weeks ago
You’re just making a different shift here.
Shifting the definition of slaver, from one commonly understood usage, to your own personal version.
But that doesn’t even matter, as you admit that’s not the reason you don’t like it.
The reason you don’t like it, isn’t any rational practical reason. It’s an ideological dogmatism. A decree. Because you don’t like it, other’s shouldn’t be allowed to. Which is kind of funny coming from “an outspoken anarchist”.
PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S@anarchist.nexus 3 weeks ago
I literally cited the dictionary definition. A slaver is any person involved in the slave trade.
You literally don’t have to have a practical reason to like or not like stuff. Like I could’ve been like “I don’t like the monuments because they look like doo doo” and that is a legitimate aesthetic preference.
When did I say that others should be banned from liking it? I just want people to understand what the thing they’re liking actually represents, which is the vile AmeriKKKan settler-colonial project.
Yes because anarchism is when you have literally no opinions on anything ever and you let literally everything happen with absolutely no pushback whatsoever 🙄.
Steve@communick.news 3 weeks ago
It doesn’t actually represent anything. It’a a public pool. You just imagine it represents something. Something specific to you.
Just as anyone else, could imagine it represents anything else.
And what you really want, is to convince others your imagining is real. Because you believe it is. And since you can’t choose what you believe or don’t, all you can do is try to convince others to believe what you do.
PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S@anarchist.nexus 3 weeks ago
What the fuck are you smoking and can I have some?
It’s literally called the Lincoln Memorial Reflecting Pool. It obviously is a memorial to Lincoln. The National Mall is filled with monuments which are explicitly dedicated to memorializing various figures from AmeriKKKan history. We’re not debating this!
Wow golly gee I must be a real fucking psycho to want to … convince people to think like I do. Goddamn, that’s some crazy shit.
Only a shitLIB would be up their own ass enough to have a problem with trying to convince people to think differently.