xtreme defender… can be a good option for weaker calibers like .380,

That’s my use case. I load the 68gr defender over 4.1 grains of Win 231. These chrono 1,181fps out of the LCP’s 2.75” barrel. Feeds flawlessly, which surprised me a bit.

A couple months ago American Reloading had 68gr Defender pulls for 27.6 cents each which is about half price and in the ballpark of top-tier hollowpoints.