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Grail@multiverse.soulism.net 1 day agoYes, Israel is committing a genocide. I think Australia should declare war on Israel and bomb IDF bases until the genocide stops. We should demand that Israel recognise the Palestinian state and withdraw all trespasses onto Palestinian land. But once the war is over, I do not think Australia should execute zionist civilians. I also do not think zionist civilians in Australia should be executed by the government. Certainly, if they’re collaborating with the IDF, their work should be seized. The most egregious domestic offenders should be charged with community service.
Would you have the Australian government (which, by the way, is an illegal government just like Israel) execute zionist citizens for treason, commit to an invasion of Palestinian land, and execute all Israeli citizens who support the genocide? I wouldn’t. We have no death penalty in Australia for good reason. I would not support any politician who advocated for reinstating capital punishment, even if they intended to execute zionists.
Footer1998@crazypeople.online 1 day ago
ok great! i am also opposed to zionist civillians being killed unless they’re e.g. political leaders. i am also opposed to the death penalty. but that isn’t what was happening in that discussion, godric was baselessly accusing an anti-zionist of supporting indiscriminate murder, that anti-zionist consistently rejected that claim and provided evidence of past comments where they explicitly argued against indiscriminate killing of zionists and asked i think 4 times if godric recognized the genocide and every. single. time. godric dodged the question
godric is a fucking zionist, 100%.
Grail@multiverse.soulism.net 1 day ago
Godric says they dodged the question because they recognised that you were using the alt-right playbook, and didn’t want to take your engagement bait. I think that’s a valid position. I’m a bit more of a skilled speechwriter, so I know how to maneuver past engagement debate and stay on topic while also addressing the question. But if Godric didn’t feel confident with outmaneuvering your engagement bait and wanted to just stay on topic, I respect that. I gotta say, I also noticed you using the alt-right playbook. You made a wild accusation against Me with no evidence and gish-galloped straight into interrogating Me. It’s a good thing I know how to deal with that sort of bad-faith rhetoric. I’m not gonna take your word that Godric is a zionist, just because they refused to engage with your bad-faith nonsense.
Godric@lemmy.world 1 day ago
I couldn’t have said it better myself! I wish you the best day!
Grail@multiverse.soulism.net 1 day ago
Thank you! This whole “kill all Zionists” debacle has been very interesting. It’s very much separated out of the Thunbergs from the Lenins in the community. I’m glad that people are starting to respect dbzer0 less, as dbzer0 slide rightward.
You know, a lot of Jewish people decided to respond to the genocide their grandparents suffered, by conducting a genocide of their own. And it seems that just like the Nazis, the Zionists are inspiring a new generation of murderous hate. History is a circle.
Footer1998@crazypeople.online 1 day ago
zionists always lie and pretend that anti-zionists are fascists. either you’re stupid and believe a zionist over an anti-zionist, or, far more likely, you yourself are a zionist liar. either way, go fuck yourself
Grail@multiverse.soulism.net 1 day ago
But you didn’t show any convincing evidence they’re a zionist. You’re trying to reason Me from a premise to a conclusion, using the conclusion as evidence. That’s circular reasoning, you’re not convincing anybody.